you need to do more reading re the boxes and their results. I do agree though a proper remap will always be better.Leo-RS wrote:Tuning boxes will not remove the 155/174/189 limiters. In addition, they run base fuel maps which with a 40-50% increase in boost pressure thus a lot higher EGT's will run extremely lean and likely grenade on track or at high speed driving. I wouldn't like to go on a top speed run on a tuning box with lambda pegged at 0.9, would you? Yeah the standard inbuilt protection measures will likely put it into limp home mode before that happens but not always especially if continued abuse.
They can't adapt for Stage 2 type mods, limit boost on launch, adapt for higher octane etc, tuning boxes are extremely limited and if a fully customised map is at 100%, a tuning box will only be at 75%.
I would say MRC know how to do itSpeak to them and see, there's a reason why the need 6hrs+ to tune these cars, yeah they can load in a base generic map and pump out 650 on the dyno but there's a reason they tune further, the cars leave with 680-710 with further tweaking and testing, dyno time. Pay £600 for a Litchfield generic 650hp tune or £1100 for a fully customised 700 tune? What's the point in going half way, tune it right, tune it once.
You want to know what the cars are doing EGT and fuelling wise at 6500 in 6th too, something you can't do on the road. Dyno time is not cheap, £1100 is reasonable I would say. I guess GTR tuning was a lot cheaper Paul, but GTR tuning market is a lot bigger, with a lot bigger market, more competition, prices tumble.
I wont be paying Litchfield £600 either lol
Tune it once tune it right is a good statement but I am not in the game of dropping my car off paying a load of cash then picking it up faster. Where is the fun and learning in that. A car for me is all about fun, playing, gaining knowledge and the fact I will have done 90% of it myself. Different people want different things out of their car and money.