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[MB2]

I do wonder how DMS or similar warranty would have worked with the RS3s whose gearboxes failed and were denied warranty by Audi due to remaps.

The tuner probably didn't cause it as the engine didn't fail & the gear box I guess was weak, but Audi feel too much torque was put through the gear box so don't want to know either.

[Trups]

Is it a component warranty or warranty on software if the Ecu was to go pop?

[Eddie555]

Is it a component warranty or warranty on software if the Ecu was to go pop?

Are you asking this question because you have experienced an ecu go pop?

[doodlebug]

It's an interesting point. Who's warranting what? And if you do goose the drive train who fixes it and then warrants that?! By that point your factory warranty is definitely in the shitter.

[Trups]

Is it a component warranty or warranty on software if the Ecu was to go pop?

Are you asking this question because you have experienced an ecu go pop?

Nope, usually when you read on sites that offer a warranty on the tune it's for the Ecu and the software that if it was to corrupt anything while in their hands or because of their work.

I have not heard of a tuner give warranty like a manufacture to warrant lets say a turbo blowing due to the extra boost as a direct result of having a remap. It's more than likely been covered and I know when tuning it's at your own risk but what is DMS covering? Would be good to know?

[Trups]

It's an interesting point. Who's warranting what? And if you do goose the drive train who fixes it and then warrants that?! By that point your factory warranty is definitely in the shitter.

+1

[Eddie555]

What does MRC cover??
All I can vouch for is I've always been assured that if and that is an if in my case as I've previously said out of 20 odd cars we've had remapped non have had a failure. And if any had DMS assured us that before our cars went back to the dealer they would reinstate our OE data back into the ECU.
As I've asked before. Has anyone had to make any such warranty claim due to a catastrophic failure???

[doodlebug]

Yep, same question applies across the board.

[bam_bam]

I've gotten good at lobbing hand-grenades into innocuous sounding threads, ain't I?

[Eddie555]

I've gotten good at lobbing hand-grenades into innocuous sounding threads, ain't I?

Yep. You should try throwing some bombs by the Hungarian boarder.

[doodlebug]

What does MRC cover??
All I can vouch for is I've always been assured that if and that is an if in my case as I've previously said out of 20 odd cars we've had remapped non have had a failure. And if any had DMS assured us that before our cars went back to the dealer they would reinstate our OE data back into the ECU.
As I've asked before. Has anyone had to make any such warranty claim due to a catastrophic failure???

Not sure what use reinstating the default map is when the dealer will work out that it has been modified. That's like closing the gate after the horse has departed.

Risk might be low, until you're the one with a car in bits having the argument. Can't imagine it'll be quick or painless.

[Eddie555]

Doodle I don't have the slightest idea if the dealer will or will not know if it had been modified.
What I want to know is has anyone been through the process of blowing something up and having to make a warranty claim??? It all seems to be speculation that if this if that. All theses ifssss.

[S4WON]

Yes eddie, loads of people on "the internet". Search "Audi TD1" plenty of tears from clowns, who thought they were covered..

Heck ive even put a photocopy up of the official audi warranty page that says ANY modification invalidates ALL warranty, and do people listen? Do they fcuk, they tell themselves what they want to hear.

[Eddie555]

Well thank S4won for enlightening me. I honestly didn't realise that there was so many clowns that cried.
Luckily then that none of our cars had any problems.

Next time I'll be be looking very deeply in the warranty validity before I have anything done again.

[W8PMC]

Yes eddie, loads of people on "the internet". Search "Audi TD1" plenty of tears from clowns, who thought they were covered..

Heck ive even put a photocopy up of the official audi warranty page that says ANY modification invalidates ALL warranty, and do people listen? Do they fcuk, they tell themselves what they want to hear.

We both know that's incorrect. Also wasn't that warranty photocopy you posted only applicable for Audi Approved Used Cars?

Audi as would any manufacturer are going to walk away or at least try to if it's perceived a modification has caused a component failure, however they'd need a fairly good case & could never carte blanche invalidate an entire vehicle warranty due to an ECU tune. Can you really see a conversation such as 'my Sunroof motor has failed', sorry Sir your car is tuned. 'I have an annoying rattle coming from the offside rear wheel' sorry Sir your car is tuned.

Clowns will be clowns & if they choose to acquire a cheap generic tune from a less that reputable source then that's their business, however (& this isn't of course specific to just DMS & would no doubt include the likes of MRC & Litchfields among others), if said tune caused a mechanical failure on the car that the Mfctr wasn't prepared or willing to cover then the Tuner would put right & if they for whatever reason went out of business during that time which given the size & stature of those named above is extremely unlikely, then the Insured aspect of the warranty would be deployed.

This is one of the contributing factors such tunes are more expensive than the cheaper generic maps/tuning boxes & let's be honest, do you really think the above companies are going to produce code that's expected to significantly reduce the lifespan of the owners cars key components as i'm sure MRC & DMS do not relish the idea of seeing 'My *** tuned car has blown up & i'm thousands of ££'s out of pocket'? Yes the risk will increase slightly, but still well within the cars tolerances.

Each to their own as to what they do with their cars & for many perhaps that small risk is too much, but as long as you stick with a reputable tuner who's product is tried & tested & they offer a warranty on their components/code then i'm sure that risk has been mitigated as well as it can be.