New RS6 PE Spec and other Questions

[harrier]

DRC definitely if you want to have some occasional fun on a track (even my 23 year old step son hit 140mph on the Lavant "straight" at Goodwood, only having been on the/(any) track once before and that was in a Polo).
See other thread re Pano, but it has very useful indeed for letting out the heat and avoiding the worse effects of the sun in the recent heat wave, so I love it.
Do consider the C Ceramics in the Dynamic Plus Pack for their longevity as the car is two tons and can certainly get through steel discs and standard pads.
The other option I would tick is the Head-Up Display as so very useful if you like to keep your eyes on the road.
What ever options you tick you will still have an awesome car.

[MikeFish]

As doodle says it's all about the body roll. Air is much more comfortable in comfort mode but nowhere near as hard in dynamic mode. For me the air had too much body roll even under normal driving conditions going around corners or roundabouts, you don't need to get near a track to feel the benefits of DRC. For me DRC in comfort is plenty soft enough to iron out the motorway bumps on some of the poorer surfaces but the rest of the time the suspension is in dynamic mode. Dynamic is very very stiff but still has some body roll, it is by no means perfect especially if you have driven a B7 RS4 which managed to minimise roll and without removing all your fillings.

[LeapingDeere]

Going to defo have the Pano.

I tried an M6 with HUD and I liked it alot but it's very expensive option with Audi compared to BM pricing, I think on a Autobahn doing 200+kph you'd need it to keep your eyes on the road, but less so on the M1 doing 85mph.

It would be nice to try both but I assume pretty much all are DRC and I'd be lucky to find an air one to demo. I'm very unlikely to do any track days. Mostly evenings and weekend driving, doing some longer journeys into Europe and carrying all the family in the process and having the ability to overtake in short distances where the train of cars appear, which is like most of my single carriageway roads nearby

[wildbore]

There's more roll with air, that's the main difference. If you want to throw it in to some corners, you need DRC. If you're going to waft up the motorway it's probably the wrong car anyway!

Well, I like to think that I can throw my car into a corner as fast as anyone can safely do on the public road and I find air is no impediment to that; you are limited by visibility and safety long before you are limited by the suspension. The air-sprung car is absolutely fine and doesn't suffer from excess body roll. Sure, DRC would be better but air has a lot to recommend it if you mostly drive the car in a normal fashion.

It's also a cracking car for wafting up the motorway. It is super silent, effortless in exploiting rare sections of clear road and has the advantage that many people will pull over to let you through.

On the track, of course, is a different world; but who would track an RS6 when you can buy or rent a wealth of more suitable cars for the job?

[LeapingDeere]

Well, I like to think that I can throw my car into a corner as fast as anyone can safely do on the public road and I find air is no impediment to that; you are limited by visibility and safety long before you are limited by the suspension. The air-sprung car is absolutely fine and doesn't suffer from excess body roll. Sure, DRC would be better but air has a lot to recommend it if you mostly drive the car in a normal fashion.

It's also a cracking car for wafting up the motorway. It is super silent, effortless in exploiting rare sections of clear road and has the advantage that many people will pull over to let you through.

On the track, of course, is a different world; but who would track an RS6 when you can buy or rent a wealth of more suitable cars for the job?

That is kind of what I had in my mind about the air, so thanks for the input. tbh I was still favouring the air so I was glad to read this.

[Tadass910]

Dynamic plus package must also hud

[MikeFish]

A friend of mine thought the same about air and had an RS6 on air for a few years until recently when bought a Performance RS6 which relutantly had DRC. But he can now see why I told him to get DRC. Even for normal road driving it is significantly better, which is subjective of course. No one said you can't go round a corner with air, it just feels much better on springs and inspires more confidence. I found on air I felt I had to run wide.fact is I probably didn't but the amount of body roll made me feel like it didn't want to turn in any faster. Air does have its advent ages of course; if you want to tow then it's a must, or like my friend if you have a steep drive then the adjustable ride height is a bonus (or a must).
But I know there are those that think air is fine and there are others who won't own a car with air which is why I said you should test drive both.
There are surprisingly more cars with air than you might think, a lot of people were toldair is better by dealers and lots of dealer demos have air so you shouldn't have have a problem finding one to test drive. And once you pick one way or the other there's no changing other than by selling your car and buying another.

[Marcus_RS4]

Just to play devils advocate on the DRC Vs Air debate:

Both are great, but depends what you are looking for from the car.
I have air, dropped 20mm, air is lower than DRC in Dynamic from the off anyway so it looks good. This made some difference to corners, but not alot. I have never felt it being 'twitchy' on or off camber - just make sure you get the alignment sorted.

A benefit of air for me is its usability, afterall, this is an estate, we are going to use them in various scenarios. In comfort its very comfortable for all, in dynamic its stiff enough for my needs and when I am pulling into a camping site the ability to lift it to save my carbon splitter keeps me sane

[TS7]

Just to note that my <3 month old '6 is back at the dealer with a (sports) suspension/DRC fault, particularly in comfort setting - although on selecting dynamic the effect continues. I tend to use comfort day in day out as I can't afford the time for regular osteopath and dentist visits.

Front end feels planted, but occasionally the rear end suffers from 'chatter', in this case a up/down displacement alternating between left & right sides, an inch or so displacement at ~4 Hertz. It has happened, on stetches of road I know very well, in the 'straight and level', constant radius sweeping curves, and when joining a main road from an entry ramp. It doesn't happen all the time, in that it doesn't happen on the same bit of road every time I drive on it, but is very disconcerting when it does; the induced swaying motion almost feels as if a wheel is loose (it isn't!). Thankfully the dealer has managed to reproduce the effect, but the diagnostic kit isn't picking up a fault. The dealer is currently seeking advice from Audi.

[Markp]

Just to note that my <3 month old '6 is back at the dealer with a (sports) suspension/DRC fault, particularly in comfort setting - although on selecting dynamic the effect continues. I tend to use comfort day in day out as I can't afford the time for regular osteopath and dentist visits.

Front end feels planted, but occasionally the rear end suffers from 'chatter', in this case a up/down displacement alternating between left & right sides, an inch or so displacement at ~4 Hertz. It has happened, on stetches of road I know very well, in the 'straight and level', constant radius sweeping curves, and when joining a main road from an entry ramp. It doesn't happen all the time, in that it doesn't happen on the same bit of road every time I drive on it, but is very disconcerting when it does; the induced swaying motion almost feels as if a wheel is loose (it isn't!). Thankfully the dealer has managed to reproduce the effect, but the diagnostic kit isn't picking up a fault. The dealer is currently seeking advice from Audi.

Low pressure is the most common cause, secondary to a leak in the valve or dampers. It needs very high pressures. I had the same problem. All dampers replaced (early versions knocked a bit anyway - replacement set were modified) and problem came back within 3 months as valves were leaking and pressure dropped. New valves, recharge and 5000 miles of silent running and perfect handling since.

[Markp]

PS knocking is more obvious in Comfort and often a low speed on broken surfaces. Audi well aware of the issue.

[LeapingDeere]

Im asking for a demo on both but I'm leaning onto the air, unless a DRC test drive was leagues better.

Im not going to do track days and where it would go the ability to raise it would be ideal.

[superlightr]

I have standard air on mine. very happy with it.

[gsc]

Just to note that my <3 month old '6 is back at the dealer with a (sports) suspension/DRC fault, particularly in comfort setting - although on selecting dynamic the effect continues. I tend to use comfort day in day out as I can't afford the time for regular osteopath and dentist visits.

Front end feels planted, but occasionally the rear end suffers from 'chatter', in this case a up/down displacement alternating between left & right sides, an inch or so displacement at ~4 Hertz. It has happened, on stetches of road I know very well, in the 'straight and level', constant radius sweeping curves, and when joining a main road from an entry ramp. It doesn't happen all the time, in that it doesn't happen on the same bit of road every time I drive on it, but is very disconcerting when it does; the induced swaying motion almost feels as if a wheel is loose (it isn't!). Thankfully the dealer has managed to reproduce the effect, but the diagnostic kit isn't picking up a fault. The dealer is currently seeking advice from Audi.

Low pressure is the most common cause, secondary to a leak in the valve or dampers. It needs very high pressures. I had the same problem. All dampers replaced (early versions knocked a bit anyway - replacement set were modified) and problem came back within 3 months as valves were leaking and pressure dropped. New valves, recharge and 5000 miles of silent running and perfect handling since.

Likewise, nearside rear rattled so all 4 replaced with newer generation units, system recharged and had no issues in the last 6 months since.

[TS7]

PS knocking is more obvious in Comfort and often a low speed on broken surfaces. Audi well aware of the issue.

It certainly isn't knocking.