F90 M5

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F90 M5

Post by Paulm » Sat Aug 08, 2020 11:19 am

Well as some predicted it happened.
I kept it longer than spring :mrgreen: , but if truth be told I tried to sell it in January as I hated it that much.

Issues for me,

Suspension crazy hard. H&Rs helped but still rubbish on the roads where I live. I reckon if you do a lot of Motorway driving it would be fine. I don’t have that luxury

Suspension again, does not absorb any bumps, when playing it just wants to bounce you off the road.

MPG, even when driving miss daisy, I could not get above 19mpg. I don’t mind what I get when playing but expect at least low 20s normal driving.

Low compression engine and big turbos has little or no torque below 3k revs. Even cruising on the motorway coming to a hill it would change down to 7th or even 6th at some points. Nailing it though the engine is fantastic, plenty of power and howled to the red line.

Cabin boom was really really annoying over rough tarmac. BMW have used hard rubber (solid) suspension bushing to improve handling, but the negative effect is ALL noise is transmitted into the cabin. Going over Shell grip did my head in.

F90 M5,

Can get 30mpg relatively easy on a run. Knocking around the town is an easy 23mpg currently getting 25mpg. Wife got 31.8mpg the other day. She never got 25 on the X3MC.

Suspension is “just” comfy enough. Firm but more than acceptable and is compliant in bouncy rough road when playing. Really inspires confidence. I did not want the M5 comp. I could not face more unbearable ride just to get another 25bhp. 10% extra stiffer springs, larger ARB and retuned shocks. Pass on that.

Engine is fantastic, loads of torque and huge power when nailing it. Don’t get me wrong the X3MC has a great engine when over 3k revs. It’s like a 600cc motorbike vs 1000cc bike. Both you can scream if you like but the 1000cc bike you can play at any revs.

Surround View is a pretty cool function.

As I liked my other 2 M5s apart from lack of grip, I should probably have gone straight to the F90 :roll:
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BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

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Re: F90 M5

Post by Brooner » Sat Aug 08, 2020 4:39 pm

FFS
Im starting to loose track with all the motor changes 🙂
Looks nice though you are still dead to us
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Re: F90 M5

Post by Paulm » Sat Aug 08, 2020 5:32 pm

Wife said something very similar :lol: :mrgreen:
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

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Re: F90 M5

Post by 535dboy » Sun Aug 09, 2020 4:42 pm

Congrats again!

What’s next :wink:
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Re: F90 M5

Post by Paulm » Sun Aug 09, 2020 6:36 pm

Hmmmmm :lol: :lol:
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

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Re: F90 M5

Post by MikeFish » Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:48 am

Any mods planned?

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Re: F90 M5

Post by Paulm » Mon Aug 10, 2020 6:50 am

Maybe slightly lower at the front, rear is perfect. Black front grilles. Other than that, it is so bloody fast I dont think I need to. Dont think I have ever said that.

Sounds a bit boring though, OPFs have killed all the fun noises.
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

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Re: F90 M5

Post by Paulm » Mon Sep 28, 2020 9:52 am

So, done 3 or 4k in the M5 and I have got to say I am really impressed (for a change) Those who know me know I have no loyalty to any brand or car, if its rubbish its rubbish.

Engine. This thing is vey very fast. So fast in fact I am contemplating leaving it standard. Can’t remember when that has ever happened before. Loads of low-down torque and it likes to rev. Best of both worlds.
MPG. Fantastic for what it is. 25+ is easy. Wife gets over 30mpg. Not that I buy car for MPG but lower than 20 on a steady run really annoys me. The X3MC was brutal no matter what
Sound. Pretty rubbish. OPF kills the sound that’s for sure
Comfort. “Just” comfy enough. Still hard but compliant enough not to bother me. In-laws can travel in comfort. Really glad I did not go for the Comp.
Looks. Always subjective. I really like how it looks.
Handling. Very impressed. I’ve had a few playing sessions and can say unless you are a complete muppet you won’t upset this car on the roads. I think the issue is, it gives you huge confidence to keep pushing, when it does break free will be it gradual or instant? My guess would be instant, it will try and kill you when it does let go.
Road noise. My pet hate. Again, “just” quiet enough. My roads are very poor but its pretty quiet. When I do go south on dual carriageways its more or less silent. I will prob still do a bit of sound proofing in rear arch area to kill road noise a bit more.
Toys, More than enough to keep you busy.
Only done one launch, 0-60 3.3 is crazy fast. Draggy did not measure 1/4mile for some reason. Great fun.
4WD is a must for this kid of power. My old F10s did nothing put light up the tyres. This thing just grips and goes even in the wet. Not tried 2WD mode. No need to, had enough of that when I had the F10 M5.
BMW 540i
2018 GTR
F90 M5
X3MC
RS3 Saloon
RS7 FL best car I've owned. No faith in turbo oil screen (turbos failing) or sticking oil scraper ring causing missfires.
F10 M5 LCI still no rear grip lol
S7 black Edition Too big and heavy
S3 8V FL DSG 310ps, road noise is a joke
RS3 8P Rubbish
C7 RS6 Fantastic car but missed playing
GTR R35 800bhp, too extreme, crazy fast though
911 Turbo Remapped. Hated it
F10 M5, awesome but no rear grip
RS6 V10 700BHP crazy
Porsche Cayenne Turbo S 600bhp

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