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Fuel Prices
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:09 pm
by t_urbo
Copy and pasted from another site.
I only ever fill up at either Tesco's for diesel or Shell for V-power or normal unleaded.
Maybe this would work? Had it in an e-mail today.
We are hitting 95p a litre in some areas now, soon we will be faced with paying £1 a litre. Philip Hollsworth offered this good idea:
This makes MUCH MORE SENSE than the 'don't buy petrol on a certain day campaign that was going around last April or May! The oil companies just laughed at that because they knew we wouldn't continue to hurt ourselves by refusing to buy petrol. It was more of an inconvenience to us than it was a problem for them. BUT, whoever thought of this idea has come up with a plan that can really work.
Please read it and join in!
Now that the oil companies and the OPEC nations have conditioned us to think that the cost of a litre is CHEAP, we need to take aggressive action to teach them that BUYERS control the market place not sellers. With the price of petrol going up more each day, we consumers need to take action. The only way we are going to see the price of petrol come down is if we hit someone in the pocket by not purchasing their Petrol! And we can do that WITHOUT hurting ourselves. Here's the
idea:
For the rest of this year DON'T purchase ANY petrol from the two biggest oil companies (which now are one), ESSO and BP. If they are not selling any petrol, they will be inclined to reduce their prices. If they reduce their prices, the other companies will have to follow suit. But to have an impact we need to reach literally millions of Esso and BP petrol buyers. It's really simple to do!!
Now, don't wimp out on me at this point... keep reading and I'll explain how simple it is to reach millions of people!!
I am sending this note to a lot of people. If each of you send it to at least ten more (30 x 10 = 300)... and those 300 send it to at least ten more (300 x 10 = 3,000) ... and so on, by the time the message reaches the sixth generation of people, we will have reached over THREE MILLION consumers! If those three million get excited and pass this on to ten friends each, then 30 million people will have been contacted! If it goes one level further, you guessed it... ..
THREE HUNDRED MILLION PEOPLE!!!
Again, all You have to do is send this to 10 people. That's all.(and not buy at ESSO/BP) How long would all that take? If each of us sends this email out to ten more people within one day of receipt, all 300 MILLION people could conceivably be contacted within the next 8 days!!! Acting together we can make a difference If this makes sense to you, please pass this message on.
PLEASE HOLD OUT UNTIL THEY LOWER THEIR PRICES TO THE 69p a LITRE RANGE
Im not pissed at the oil companies making a profit, im pissed at the tax (63.7p tax on 95p per litre unleaded) our Government puts on it...........
RE: Fuel Prices
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:00 pm
by ChuckUK
Paid 1.12p for SU at BP today, mad !!!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 10:43 pm
by alex_123_fra
I don't buy BP anyway. It seems much more expensive than the equivalent shell petrol. Tesco 99 are good as you get 5p off a litre if you spend more than £50 there.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:37 am
by reevesroadster
Likewise, I just switched to shell - they have a new credit card offering 5p per litre off for the first 60 days, plus Shell points.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 8:36 am
by oilman4345
Somebody needs to educate whoever wrote the original of the above.
Firstly (and most importantly) is that it is the exchequer who takes more than 70p out of evey litre you buy and so it is pressure on the government that is required to slash the taxation they apply !!
Secondly Esso and BP are NOT one company. The name Esso is derived from original Standard Oil (S-O). They are now Exxon corporation and have nothing to do with BP.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:22 am
by P_G
The reality is that I would be quite happy to pay current prices if I knew all the fuel tax accrued by the Government was being used to upgrade the road infrastructure. But it's not, so it is them who need to do something about this and start taxing the real CO2 polluters of this small island of ours, namely airlines / air couriers and industry.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:46 am
by SimonFV8
Dont forget cows!
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:47 am
by P_G
Very true, I fancy a steak tonight. Back in a mo...... now where's my shotgun?!
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:07 am
by S4INT
There was an interesting set of "facts" in Evo last month -
· Only 3% of ALL global Co2 emissions are Man Made
· Of that 3%, only 2.2% is from transport – so 0.066% of all global Co2 emissions are from cars, planes, trains etc
· Of that 0.066%, only 1/3 is from cars
· So, the total amount of global Co2 emissions from cars is 0.022%
· The other 97% is from naturally occurring sources i.e. volcanoes, decaying plants and trees, people and cows!
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:25 am
by GardinerG
50.35p is the fuel duty on a litre of unleaded PLUS VAT on the total fuel + tax price.
So, take a price of £1 a litre, this would break down into:
VAT 14.89p
Gives a pre VAT fuel cost of 85.11p
Take off the fuel Duty at 50.35p (fixed)
Gives a fuel cost before Duty and VAT 34.76p
So the total tax on £1/litre you would pay would be 65.24p
That's if my maths is correct.
not to mention that they are talking about the "pay as you go" road charge scheme. Oh but don't forget they will drop the tax on petrol to compensate (yeah right), until they put it back up again of course.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:41 am
by JonnyX
S4INT wrote:There was an interesting set of "facts" in Evo last month -
· Only 3% of ALL global Co2 emissions are Man Made
· Of that 3%, only 2.2% is from transport – so 0.066% of all global Co2 emissions are from cars, planes, trains etc
· Of that 0.066%, only 1/3 is from cars
· So, the total amount of global Co2 emissions from cars is 0.022%
· The other 97% is from naturally occurring sources i.e. volcanoes, decaying plants and trees, people and cows!
I would dispute some of these facts but I strongly agree with the
sentiment. No matter what politicians say, climate change is a natural
process and there is very little we can do about it. Let alone 'prevent
it'.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 11:54 am
by SR71
Aircraft contribute bugger all CO2 to the atmosphere...compared to cows...as someone has already pointed out.
Average RS4 occupied by one driver does ~0.14km/L.
Average 737 occupied by 150 pax does ~0.02km/L/pax
RS4 would have to do 140mpg to equate to that kind of efficiency.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 12:39 pm
by P_G
But then you are not taking into account the CO2 produced by courier aircraft or the world's air forces whihc is far more than commercial anyway.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:00 pm
by reevesroadster
Well Ive stopped eating beans to justify my time in the car.
Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 1:22 pm
by t_urbo
P_G wrote:But then you are not taking into account the CO2 produced by courier aircraft or the world's air forces whihc is far more than commercial anyway.
Take this into account and its still a drop in the 'ocean', which funny enough produces more CO2 than we ever can.