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Very off topic I know, but below is a link to a very good article I came across recently about the Hillsborough Tradgedy.

I say now, it does not make pleasant reading, but as a Liverpool fan and indeed as someone who despises lies, I feel an obligation to give others the opportunity to get a glimpse of the truth about that horrible day.

http://forums.liverpoolfc.tv/Forum3/HTML/391744.html

Like I say, it is quite a harrowing account at times and I leave it up to you whether you do read it, but please let others know about it as well.

I'll think you find you need to be a registered user to read it mate...

This is a fine point!

I would post it in here but it's a long article, is there anyway of attaching a text document that people can download?

I think you can add a txt doc as an attachment...

Here goes then...

Cool, it worked (wouldn't take a txt file so zipped it)!

Cheers for the help!!

Nice changes to the site as well!

I am afriad that has opened some old wounds....

Typical stereotyping of football fans being pissheads and hooligans

I was 15 at the time i was standing in the pen at Leppings Lane End. I had also had a few jars before hand. I was in the ground about an hour and a half before kick off. I was standing in the cental pen, no3, to the right of the ill fated tunnel.Remember sitting on the terrace reading my programme, the atmosphere building and it getting busier.

It must have been about half hour before kick off, when it was really packed, that i experienced the crowd surging - like in the Kop. It all opened out in front of me and i could feel the surge coming. It was then i/we (four of us) decided we was out of there and climbed over the railings and into the next pen.

It did not really dawn on people what was happening untill it was too late. Obviously ,IMO, i will come down on the side of Police incompetence/ lack of Police/Stewarding.The pen i was now in was less than half full, yet because of the sheer amount of people squeezed into the central pens, there was no escape into them. The only way was through the closed gate at the front-or being pulled to safety from the people seated above the central pens.

Regardless of people turning up late,IMO, if there was correct/enough Police/stewards outside of the ground, they would have been able to direct people from bottlenecking outside and stopping the crush there.They would have also been able to see that more than enough people had already entered the central pens.....