RS3 v RS5

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RS3 v RS5

Post by RSphantom » Wed May 09, 2012 7:42 pm

I just thought I would give you my thoughs on both cars as I have now owned both (RS3 for only 2 weeks now)

The two RS5's I owned looked like this;

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and the RS3 looks like this;

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I will and get some better quality photo's up when the weathers a bit better and the cars not covered in muck.

Anyway I thought I would share my thoughs on a few different areas on the cars.

Styling

I think the RS5 is probably the more visually striking car of the two, depending on the colour I guess. You can tell the difference on the RS3 when you park up next to a standard S3. The front wings bulge out much more and it has a more aggressive stance. Also you get some nice little touches such as with the aluminium styling pack you nice inserts in the door handles and the rear roof spoiler.

Engine & Gearbox

The winner on this without doubt is the RS3. The only thing the RS5 has is a great V8 growl but everything else the RS3 does better. An example of this has to be the way the gearbox and engine work much better together. In the RS5 if you had it in individual/dynamic mode and not in manual it wouldn't change up until at least 4000rpm so the only way to use the setting would be to put it into manual mode. Then when you want to overtake you would either have to drop it down via the paddles or flick back to auto mode which was a bit of a pain. Also the only way to have the exhaust open was again to have it in individual/dynamic mode unless you wanted to fiddle around under the boot as some have done I think. Also if you were just in normal auto mode in D and you wanted to overtake you would have to press the accelerator and then wait for around a second or so for the gearbox to spring to life and you were off. The difference with the RS3 is that you put your foot down and your off, it doesn't seem to have that delay. Also you have the drive in D and still have the sports button on so the exhaust is making a lovely noise. Even better put it in sports mode on the gearbox and the changes up still work for day to day use. It will change to 6th even below 2000rpm so you can drive around if you wish without everybody thinking whats that idiot doing. In terms of speed I would say the RS3 is slightly quicker off a roundabout but over a very long straight and at very high speed the RS5 would catch up eventually. Fuel economy wise I used to average around 22mpg in the RS5 where as the RS3 is doing around 28mpg on the same sort of runs and is getting better as the engine loosens up.

Handling

The RS5 was great and I never felt the supposed understeer that it had. The only thing I had against it was when you were pushing on you felt the weight of the car. However, it never came unstuck and I was never brave enough to find the limits on public roads. Now for the RS3, no adjustable suspension, no adjustable steering and no sports diff. Do I miss them, no. The RS3 set up is firm but no crashy, its steers better than the RS5 (anybody thinking of getting an RS5 don't bother with the dynamic steering option) and it corners just as well. The only thing is the RS3's steering is heavier at low speed (for parking etc) but thats about it. I think an RS5 will probably handle better on a track but as I never go on tracks that won't matter to me.

Interior

This point goes to the RS5. As nice as the RS3 is the seating position is a little too high if I was being honest and the interior of the RS5 is a nicer place to be. I think this was the best part of the RS5. Add in the fact that the technology is way ahead in the RS5 with the Sat Nav, voice control etc it gains the point. However one thing it loses out to the RS3 is space. There was no way anybody could sit behind me in the RS5 but there is more than enough room in the RS3. I like having five doors again as its much more convenient and the boot although smaller is more useful.

Costs

Well if you include the fuel savings, that fact the RS3 is £200 a year less to insure, £200 a year less to tax, service costs I think will be cheaper and it will cost me £100 less per tyre that all adds up. The biggest thing I've notice though is the depreciation on the RS5. It seems to drop alot in the first year so if your thinking of buying one I'd wait for a year old one and save a fortune (note for potential RS4 avant buyers as well). I didn't change to the RS3 to save money though but when I see year old cars selling at near the original list price I think at the present time anyway they are a good investment (as much as a car can ever be a good investment!!!).

Conclusion

Do I miss my RS5? Yes, I little bit, mainly for the interior. However, I think the RS3 is more fun to drive, the exhaust note and the engine are epic and I haven't even opened her up properly yet. It a better day to day car to use. In the perfect world I would have a RS3 to run as the daily drive and a low mileage two or three year old RS5 in the garage for the weekend runs which I would keep for a long time to hopefully stem the depreciation.

Most importantly though, my site name is now back to being correct :D

I will try to post up some more pictures when the weathers better and I develop some talent for taking a decent picture :mrgreen:
2018 RS5 Nardo Grey with the good toys - Gone
2019 Mercedes E63s AMG - Broke down 3 times - got rid
2019 RS3 4 door - Gone
2020 RS6 Launch Edition - The right spec unlike factory orders - gone
2021 RSQ3 Sportback - Nardo Grey - gone
2022 RS Etron GT Carbon Vorsprung - Daytona Grey - gone
2023 RS6 Avant - Daytona Grey - Current

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by Adams RS » Wed May 09, 2012 8:09 pm

Good read thanks.

Can't wait for mine even more now lol
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RS3 v RS5

Post by doodlebug » Wed May 09, 2012 8:21 pm

+1

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by Dave_Hedgehog » Wed May 09, 2012 9:48 pm

quattro fans have been waiting a long time for a blown i5, and Audi made us wait a long time for it, but boy is it a gem

drove an R golf to day and it just reinforced what the S3 tells you, that the RS3 is on a different planet, its a real little gem of a hot hatch.
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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by Moschop5 » Thu May 10, 2012 12:47 am

Nice write up, love the yellow RS5, whats the yellow car in the showroom near your RS3?

What spec is the RS3?

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by RSphantom » Thu May 10, 2012 9:11 am

Moschop5 wrote:Nice write up, love the yellow RS5, whats the yellow car in the showroom near your RS3?

What spec is the RS3?
The car in the showroom is a TTS stronic in Imola Yellow with a black styling pack. It was up for about the same price as the RS3 but I think owning one Imola Yellow car is enough for now :D

The spec of the RS3 is;

Phantom Black
Light & Rain Sensor Pack
Matt Aluminium Styling Pack
Interior Light Pack
Storage Pack
Aluminium Race Inlays
Bose
Cruise Control
Door Mirrors - Auto Dimming and Folding
Electric Lumber Support
Heated Front and Outer Rear Seats
Mobile Telephone Prep with voice control
Privacy Glass

I was not worried about bucket seats although they do look nice the standard seats are good anyway.

Just turned 500 miles now and starting to extend the right foot a little bit more :mrgreen:
2018 RS5 Nardo Grey with the good toys - Gone
2019 Mercedes E63s AMG - Broke down 3 times - got rid
2019 RS3 4 door - Gone
2020 RS6 Launch Edition - The right spec unlike factory orders - gone
2021 RSQ3 Sportback - Nardo Grey - gone
2022 RS Etron GT Carbon Vorsprung - Daytona Grey - gone
2023 RS6 Avant - Daytona Grey - Current

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by Adams RS » Thu May 10, 2012 10:29 am

Nice speck..

How you running in? If you don't mind me asking
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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by SteveCuz » Thu May 10, 2012 12:05 pm

Tried launch control yet? :FIREdevil:

Just about to turn 9,000 miles.

I still have my C5 RS6 (although haven't driven it for 3 months now) and the only thing I miss is the V8 noise (but I love the 5pot too) and the torque / speed at the top end.

From standstill though the RS3 is epic, it just doesn't have that same pull if your floor it at say 70 (on a track)

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by Moschop5 » Thu May 10, 2012 8:49 pm

RSphantom wrote:
Moschop5 wrote:Nice write up, love the yellow RS5, whats the yellow car in the showroom near your RS3?

What spec is the RS3?
The car in the showroom is a TTS stronic in Imola Yellow with a black styling pack. It was up for about the same price as the RS3 but I think owning one Imola Yellow car is enough for now :D

The spec of the RS3 is;

Phantom Black
Light & Rain Sensor Pack
Matt Aluminium Styling Pack
Interior Light Pack
Storage Pack
Aluminium Race Inlays
Bose
Cruise Control
Door Mirrors - Auto Dimming and Folding
Electric Lumber Support
Heated Front and Outer Rear Seats
Mobile Telephone Prep with voice control
Privacy Glass

I was not worried about bucket seats although they do look nice the standard seats are good anyway.

Just turned 500 miles now and starting to extend the right foot a little bit more :mrgreen:
Nice spec, very similar to mine, although I have the buckets and exclusive colour (sprint blue). But don't have the additional Phone prep, which would have been nice. mine has just turn 1k on the way home this morning. :jump:

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by RSphantom » Thu May 10, 2012 10:06 pm

Adams RS wrote:Nice speck..

How you running in? If you don't mind me asking

Nothing special, first two hundred miles were fairly gentle mainly to bed in the brakes and not too much stress on the gearbox.

Since then a bit more right foot up to around 4000rpm with the occasional harder acceleration but only for a brief period.

I will wait until I've got around 1000 miles on the clock before we really try to see what she can do :mrgreen:

Most important thing though whether it new or not I never boot a car until its up to normal working temperature.
2018 RS5 Nardo Grey with the good toys - Gone
2019 Mercedes E63s AMG - Broke down 3 times - got rid
2019 RS3 4 door - Gone
2020 RS6 Launch Edition - The right spec unlike factory orders - gone
2021 RSQ3 Sportback - Nardo Grey - gone
2022 RS Etron GT Carbon Vorsprung - Daytona Grey - gone
2023 RS6 Avant - Daytona Grey - Current

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by RSphantom » Thu May 10, 2012 10:12 pm

SteveCuz wrote:Tried launch control yet? :FIREdevil:

Just about to turn 9,000 miles.

I still have my C5 RS6 (although haven't driven it for 3 months now) and the only thing I miss is the V8 noise (but I love the 5pot too) and the torque / speed at the top end.

From standstill though the RS3 is epic, it just doesn't have that same pull if your floor it at say 70 (on a track)

Steve
No lauch control yet, its in the diary for about two weeks time :jump:

I agree with the standing start theory and also what you say about flooring it on the track at 70. But I think the performance is more usable for road use than the V8's as where I live there isn't any dual carriageways/motorways so its mostly twisty A & B roads where the top end speed doesn't really help.
2018 RS5 Nardo Grey with the good toys - Gone
2019 Mercedes E63s AMG - Broke down 3 times - got rid
2019 RS3 4 door - Gone
2020 RS6 Launch Edition - The right spec unlike factory orders - gone
2021 RSQ3 Sportback - Nardo Grey - gone
2022 RS Etron GT Carbon Vorsprung - Daytona Grey - gone
2023 RS6 Avant - Daytona Grey - Current

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by RSphantom » Thu May 10, 2012 10:20 pm

Moschop5 wrote:
RSphantom wrote:
Moschop5 wrote:Nice write up, love the yellow RS5, whats the yellow car in the showroom near your RS3?

What spec is the RS3?
The car in the showroom is a TTS stronic in Imola Yellow with a black styling pack. It was up for about the same price as the RS3 but I think owning one Imola Yellow car is enough for now :D

The spec of the RS3 is;

Phantom Black
Light & Rain Sensor Pack
Matt Aluminium Styling Pack
Interior Light Pack
Storage Pack
Aluminium Race Inlays
Bose
Cruise Control
Door Mirrors - Auto Dimming and Folding
Electric Lumber Support
Heated Front and Outer Rear Seats
Mobile Telephone Prep with voice control
Privacy Glass

I was not worried about bucket seats although they do look nice the standard seats are good anyway.

Just turned 500 miles now and starting to extend the right foot a little bit more :mrgreen:
Nice spec, very similar to mine, although I have the buckets and exclusive colour (sprint blue). But don't have the additional Phone prep, which would have been nice. mine has just turn 1k on the way home this morning. :jump:
Yes, I've seen the pictures of yours and I do like sprint blue, I had a TTS in that colour and when the sun shines its an amazing colour :thumbs:

Mine was a cancelled order so I didn't get to pick the colour but I do like phantom black anyway. The only other standard colour I would have gone for is Daytona Grey with the Aluminium Styling Pack.

The main advantage of a cancelled order is I had to wait 4 days to pick mine up rather than the months some people have unfortuately had to wait. I'm not good at waiting so how some of the guys on here do it I'll never know!!!!
2018 RS5 Nardo Grey with the good toys - Gone
2019 Mercedes E63s AMG - Broke down 3 times - got rid
2019 RS3 4 door - Gone
2020 RS6 Launch Edition - The right spec unlike factory orders - gone
2021 RSQ3 Sportback - Nardo Grey - gone
2022 RS Etron GT Carbon Vorsprung - Daytona Grey - gone
2023 RS6 Avant - Daytona Grey - Current

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by HYFR » Thu May 10, 2012 10:22 pm

what running in period ?

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by RSphantom » Thu May 10, 2012 10:26 pm

D_K wrote:what running in period ?
From the sounds of it your running in period is from the dealership forecourt to the nearest main road :mrgreen:
2018 RS5 Nardo Grey with the good toys - Gone
2019 Mercedes E63s AMG - Broke down 3 times - got rid
2019 RS3 4 door - Gone
2020 RS6 Launch Edition - The right spec unlike factory orders - gone
2021 RSQ3 Sportback - Nardo Grey - gone
2022 RS Etron GT Carbon Vorsprung - Daytona Grey - gone
2023 RS6 Avant - Daytona Grey - Current

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Re: RS3 v RS5

Post by HYFR » Thu May 10, 2012 10:29 pm

Yup ;-)

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