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Post by Nico » Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:42 pm

Sims wrote:Some more test : Sport Auto (French serious magazine) tests C63 AMG vs RS5. Below the chronos :

RS5 - C63

400m : 13.2 - 12.8
1000m : 23.9 - 22.7

0-100km/h : 4.9 - 4.8
0-160km/h : 10.7 - 9.3
0-200km/h : 18.0 - 14.2

100-140 (drive) : 3.8 - 2.8

controlled weights (kg) : 1811.5 - 1821

Conclusion : C63 AMG = pure adrenaline and power - RS5 better handling package
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It's not a fair test because the C63 Amg was the new C63 AMG 520 so 70 more than the Rs5.
Just look the time and you will see it's not the basic C63 Amg.

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Post by nidfix » Sun Aug 29, 2010 1:40 pm

Nico wrote: :evil:
It's not a fair test because the C63 Amg was the new C63 AMG 520 so 70 more than the Rs5.
Just look the time and you will see it's not the basic C63 Amg.
I have the newspaper too. On the description they claim that it is still the old one (V8 6.2l 457hp).

Frankly speaking there is no reason to be surprised by the gap. Both cars have roughly the same weight but one has an engine that is almost twice bigger than the other one (4.2l vs 6.2l) so automatically the torque will be substantially higher (unless we believe AMG guys are newcomers in designing engine). This is confirmed by provided figures (43.8mkg at 4000rpm vs 61.2mkg at 5000rpm). As in addition the cars manufacturer sends are checked to be sure that they deliver at least the announced power in such cases, I would not be surprised that AMG version delivers a little bit more while I would be happy that the RS5 one delivers what they claimed...

Therefore the only area where we would expect it to be better was handling which is what is said. For me the interesting match would be against the M3.

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Post by Nico » Sun Aug 29, 2010 5:37 pm

I don't understand the news of sport auto with the rs5 and the C63

compare to this news of ams magazine
http://sportscarforums.com/f11/ams-audi ... 36048.html
First bmw
last place for the C63 AMG PPP 487

"Last place goes to the C63 AMG with 30-more-hp. It's kinda funny that the Merc's suspension is the most uncomfortable out of this four... And despite it's so hard, the handling is not that good as it should be, the car is not well-balanced. The V8's power is brutal however. Best 0-200 km/h time"

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Post by Nico » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:04 pm

I have the newspaper sport auto too
they claim it's the C63 AMG 457hp but i think it's an error.

If you compare the time

------------C63 AMG 457-----C63 AMG 487------new C63 AMG 520
---------Sport auto--zeperf---AMF-----Zeperf----------Unknow
400m----12,8--------13,2
1000m---22,7--------23,2
0 100------4,8---------4,9------4,5-------4,5
0 160------9,3---------9,7-------9,7------9,7
0 200-----14,2-------14,9------14,7----14,7

http://img704.imageshack.us/f/66124734.jpg/

http://www.zeperfs.com/duel3573-1599.htm

The time of sport auto are not possible, i think, that they have test the new C63 AMG 520
if you read the paper sport auto say "our C63, could be a model of more than 500 hp, because of the very good time."
They have a doubt.

They say that the rs5 time are normal because like an M3 or ISF.

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Post by nidfix » Sun Aug 29, 2010 6:34 pm

As I said it is not the first time that Sport-Auto receives a "tuned-up" version of a car. But that does not mean it is the 520ch version. It does not have to be specifically optimised to be quicker than a RS5 based on the power figures of the RS5. You say that 4.8 for 0-100 is not possible. But it is still 0.3s slower than what AMG claims for that model. The only way to know for sure which C63 they actually had would have been to check it which they did not do.

I don't understand why you believe that it is not possible. C63 engine deliver much more torque than the RS5 for roughly the same weight. As long as it can be transmitted to the road it will be quicker... on straight line. Defining the best car is a bit more than that.

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Post by RussianM3_dude » Thu Sep 09, 2010 3:31 pm

Well, the C63 made my RS4 feel like the underpowered 380hp slug that it is. The Benz is a 4 door Viper. Some minor mods and you can easily squeeze 520hp out of it.

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Post by P_G » Fri Sep 10, 2010 7:21 pm

Guess who's back.... being a tw@t as usual eh? I'd like to see you keep that 520bhp in check in anything but dry conditions and get away on anything other than a motorway from an RS4. Until you get to the next set of traffic lights so you haven't got away.

And as for tracks, the RS4 beats a C63AMG on 6 out of 11 tracks on fastestlaps.com and the DR520 should be quicker given how much more it is.

Go and troll somewhere else.

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Post by T2FOO » Wed Nov 17, 2010 11:08 pm

Test drove an RS5 today.

Sounds absolutely great.

Gearbox is pin-sharp.

Nice addition to the range, pretty as you like.
RS6 Saloon (C6), Daytona Grey, Ceramic Anchors, MRC Mapped, High-Flow Filters, De-Cat Millteks, MRC Gearbox Map.

757bhp, 713 lb/ft torque.

Q7 V12 6.0 TDI, Ice Silver, Bang & Olufsen, 21" wheels, Ceramic Anchors, K&N Filters, MRC Mapped .

600bhp, 917 lb/ft torque

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