Tyres
Tyres
Heading off to south of France after Xmas in the 6. My front tyres are very bald on their inner edge even though they're 4-5mm all over. So i'm planning on simply replacing all 4. Currently have Goodyear eagle f1's. Question is, do I stick with these or pay another £200 for ps4s's? Are they worth the extra?
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I've used both Goodyear F1's and Michelin PSS (previous version of MPS4S) and both were extremely good -
Goodyear - Better in the wet, slightly worse in the dry
MPSS - Better in the dry, slightly worse in the wet
Both lasted around the same duration too and the newer MPS4S is even better but, as you mentioned, cost more.
I went for MPSS as I preferred the extra dry grip and losing that extra 5% of wet grip over the Goodyears isn't as much of an issue for me. Once I get back to the UK I'll be sticking the new MPS4S tyres on I think just due to my prior experience but either tyre would do well, and much better than the Michelin Efficient Grip that mine had fitted when I bought it
Goodyear - Better in the wet, slightly worse in the dry
MPSS - Better in the dry, slightly worse in the wet
Both lasted around the same duration too and the newer MPS4S is even better but, as you mentioned, cost more.
I went for MPSS as I preferred the extra dry grip and losing that extra 5% of wet grip over the Goodyears isn't as much of an issue for me. Once I get back to the UK I'll be sticking the new MPS4S tyres on I think just due to my prior experience but either tyre would do well, and much better than the Michelin Efficient Grip that mine had fitted when I bought it
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Don't overlook the Michelin PS4 (not S).
Very competent tyre, cheaper than the PS4S, better wet grip and based on reviews I dare say you might not know the difference in the dry unless you drive on the road at ten tenths.
Very competent tyre, cheaper than the PS4S, better wet grip and based on reviews I dare say you might not know the difference in the dry unless you drive on the road at ten tenths.
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I think the ps4s's have stiffer sidewalls so cornering grip 'feel' is better, more direct. I do like to look and feel of the Eagle f1's on there at the moment, but the reviews of the Michelins seem so much better. So it sounds like from these replies the Michelin would be good to go for for the extra outlay.
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PS4S is superb for grip in any weather (OK, not snow!). I've had mine on since they first arrived, though are off now for winter.
There's a particular bit of road that I drive along regularly that pushes grip to the limit (or can) on a very long curve and with the PS4S the car feels like it's on rails and I can overtake other cars at up to 50% faster than they feel safe at!
There's a particular bit of road that I drive along regularly that pushes grip to the limit (or can) on a very long curve and with the PS4S the car feels like it's on rails and I can overtake other cars at up to 50% faster than they feel safe at!
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How bad are they in the snow compared to the good years? I ask as I'm staying in Chambery end of Dec and although there may not be any snow down in the town, there also may be! I don't have spare wheels to put winter tyres on, and I don't want to spend over a grand on temporary tyres!HPsauce wrote: ↑Sat Dec 08, 2018 9:14 pmPS4S is superb for grip in any weather (OK, not snow!). I've had mine on since they first arrived, though are off now for winter.
There's a particular bit of road that I drive along regularly that pushes grip to the limit (or can) on a very long curve and with the PS4S the car feels like it's on rails and I can overtake other cars at up to 50% faster than they feel safe at!
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Both aren't great on snow TBH as both are "Summer" tyres and Quattro AWD means nothing it your tyres can't grip.
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Toady,
I would get your suspension bushes checked, I had the same inside edge wear, which should not be so extreme. Turned out I needed both top arms on each side replacing. The same thing will happen to your new tyres if you have alignment problems too.
Tim
I would get your suspension bushes checked, I had the same inside edge wear, which should not be so extreme. Turned out I needed both top arms on each side replacing. The same thing will happen to your new tyres if you have alignment problems too.
Tim
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I've just had 4 wheel alignment done at vass tech and he said there was no play, so hopefully it's not that. I couldn't feel any either when I checked. I think the wheels were on the rear, and I had snapped rear springs which prior to 4w alignment I had replaced. So hoping that was the reason!timthetooth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:33 pmToady,
I would get your suspension bushes checked, I had the same inside edge wear, which should not be so extreme. Turned out I needed both top arms on each side replacing. The same thing will happen to your new tyres if you have alignment problems too.
Tim
I've heard that goodyears come with 7mm tread and Michelins with 8m?
I know neither are going to be great in the snow, and esp, abs quattro will do f all if there is no grip. But I've heard Michelins are terrible in the snow.
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Just thought I'd add this comment to the above, as I've since checked mine out after experiencing some horrible car shaking on light acceleration. I wasn't sure if the car was badly miss firing, the prop had gone out of balance or what. But as timthetooth mentioned, both my upper arm bushes are shagged big time! I've still not replaced my tyres, and I'm now down in the south of France with the car. But I've just ordered some new top arms to replace these items before I get around to replacing the tyres. So....it looks lilke Vasstech didn't have a thorough look over my bushes before carrying out a full alignment after all!timthetooth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:33 pmToady,
I would get your suspension bushes checked, I had the same inside edge wear, which should not be so extreme. Turned out I needed both top arms on each side replacing. The same thing will happen to your new tyres if you have alignment problems too.
Tim
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Lemforder or Meyle HD .Toady1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:52 pmJust thought I'd add this comment to the above, as I've since checked mine out after experiencing some horrible car shaking on light acceleration. I wasn't sure if the car was badly miss firing, the prop had gone out of balance or what. But as timthetooth mentioned, both my upper arm bushes are shagged big time! I've still not replaced my tyres, and I'm now down in the south of France with the car. But I've just ordered some new top arms to replace these items before I get around to replacing the tyres. So....it looks lilke Vasstech didn't have a thorough look over my bushes before carrying out a full alignment after all!timthetooth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:33 pmToady,
I would get your suspension bushes checked, I had the same inside edge wear, which should not be so extreme. Turned out I needed both top arms on each side replacing. The same thing will happen to your new tyres if you have alignment problems too.
Tim
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Any particular sites you guys (RS246 as a whole) use to order these two (Lemforder or Meyle HD)? I'm always a bit wary of spunking that amount of money (a full kit) through a random ebay account?c3nturi0n wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 6:05 pmLemforder or Meyle HD .Toady1 wrote: ↑Tue Mar 05, 2019 5:52 pmJust thought I'd add this comment to the above, as I've since checked mine out after experiencing some horrible car shaking on light acceleration. I wasn't sure if the car was badly miss firing, the prop had gone out of balance or what. But as timthetooth mentioned, both my upper arm bushes are shagged big time! I've still not replaced my tyres, and I'm now down in the south of France with the car. But I've just ordered some new top arms to replace these items before I get around to replacing the tyres. So....it looks lilke Vasstech didn't have a thorough look over my bushes before carrying out a full alignment after all!timthetooth wrote: ↑Sun Dec 09, 2018 8:33 pmToady,
I would get your suspension bushes checked, I had the same inside edge wear, which should not be so extreme. Turned out I needed both top arms on each side replacing. The same thing will happen to your new tyres if you have alignment problems too.
Tim
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