Residuals

[Greg3227]

Do you all think this car is a keeper, despite the ongoing costs? Do you all think that in another 10-15 years, this will be a classic and demand a ridiculous price?

I wonder at what point that reversal in price will happen? It's already started to happen with the Alfa GT 3.2. Prices for a good one seem to have started to stabilise. Haven't been able to get a lowish mileage one for less than £5-£6k, and now they are on for £7k.

Perhaps an Alfa would better suit your budget

As others have mentioned, I personally don't think an RS6 is the right car for you

[801]

What on earth makes you think that? Where did you get this ridiculous superiority complex from? What makes you more worthy than me?

[801]

I was using the Alfa as an 'example' if you didn't realise, where a car becomes a 'modern classic' and appreciates as a consequence.

Clearly that's not going to happen with your car.

[longman h]

I was using the Alfa as an 'example' if you didn't realise, where a car becomes a 'modern classic' and appreciates as a consequence.

Clearly that's not going to happen with your car.

I can see you settling in well here.




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[C6Dia]

Hello

I am sure this is not a new topic, but I am trying to figure out what sort of loss I would make as soon as I buy an RS6 Avant. The sources of valuation online seem to disagree.

For example, have just seen one advertised @ £19k, 100k miles, 2008, unadulterated, 1 owner. Part-exchange price, according to one online valuation website, is £16k, so I stand to lose £3k just by looking at it, i.e. if I had to sell it for any reason.

According to the same well-known valuation website (who can you trust?), year on year, i.e. from 2008 to 2009 the part-exchange price goes up by around £4k so the car, with an independent dealer would be a £23k car, and 90k miles.

2009 to 2010 the part-exchange price increase by £4k on £26k car, 80k miles, etc.



Some have suggested that an RS6 would not depreciate very much but that is still 15% year on year, or do you all think that now Modern Classic has declared it so, that prices will stabilise?

Obviously, selling on RS246 gets somewhere in between part-exchange and independent prices, but I have to consider worst case.

From the same source, depreciation on a '12 S6 is reckoned to be at around 17%, so £4.5k on an £23k car. I was expecting an RS6 to be better than 15%.

I am not sure my source of valuations is particularly accurate, though. A 2008 RS6 avant, 53k is on at £28k? A 2013 S6 Avant with 80k miles is £27k?

Where would you go for a reliable valuation?

In all honesty if you get a decent sorted motor for sub 25k youve done well.

As mentioned you can sink the best part of 5k if oil and coolant lines have not been addressed along with an MRC tune which really brings out the best in these. Mileage is almost a double edged sword, if running an audi warranty mileage makes a massive difference in premiums but apart from that a well looked after high miler with a book full of invoices is far more valuable than a low mileage F.a.s.h stamped book.

Resale is a funny one with these, i would ignore this CAP. For e.g i sold mine for pretty much what i paid for it a year later (excluding services and minor mods). The WBAC was about 7k less. But there are examples still for sale today that were on the market when i first purchased mine nearly 18months ago.

Im a firm believer a cherished example will attract an enthusiast and will command a premium over the run of the mill ones for sale on a traders forecourt. That being said, sometimes good examples are advertised soo poorly by traders and you may grab a relative bargain. Its just time research and asking the right questions.

Good luck with your search. There a cracking bit of kit!

[Jim Haseltine]

Unless you're talking about end of life vehicles very few cars don't depreciate.
It doesn't matter what sort of car you've got, try to part-ex or sell it to a dealer and you'll get bottom dollar or less - with the RS6 they'll use every excuse under the sun (and more) to give you as little as possible even if it's super low mileage, has a perfect spec and has been serviced on the dot by an Audi dealer.

IMO, the V10 RS6 is one of those cars that you either really want to own (to the point of being willing to sell members of your family) or you don't.
If you're in the first group, the fact that it'll cost you money if you have to sell it is a minor consideration.

My views re. the possibility of the C6 becoming a classic anytime soon are elsewhere on this forum (it won't), as are my opinions on buying a car as an investment (a fool and his money etc etc).

Earlier you said

I am under pressure from the other half and work uncertainties

so IMO, the sensible answer is don't buy one.

[Jim Haseltine]

sometimes good examples are advertised soo poorly by traders and you may grab a relative bargain. Its just time research and asking the right questions.

Pretty much. It took the dealer that I bought mine from three weeks to add some pictures to his fairly basic advert (no colour mentioned and just a cut'n'paste list of standard options) - so long that I'd just about crossed it off my list of possibles.

[don0301]

IMO, the V10 RS6 is one of those cars that you either really want to own (to the point of being willing to sell members of your family) or you don't.
If you're in the first group, the fact that it'll cost you money if you have to sell it is a minor consideration.

My views re. the possibility of the C6 becoming a classic anytime soon are elsewhere on this forum (it won't), as are my opinions on buying a car as an investment (a fool and his money etc etc).

Earlier you said

I am under pressure from the other half and work uncertainties

so IMO, the sensible answer is don't buy one.

Generally agree with everything you've said.

One thing I would point out (and I'm no Guru by a long shot) the C6 RS6 is a bonkers car. You'll never get a V10 5l biturbo Lamborghini engine in an estate again, and being highly tuneable and at it's price point now (and rarity) it has a lot going for it.

People make too much of it's flaws in my view, only 2 known common(ish) faults and even an engine out say £4k during ownership pales to depreciation. Mine was a £85k+ car when new..

It's a cracking car for the money, and in a league of 1

I never saw mine as an investment, but bang for buck, I still love it to bits 3 years into ownership

Just my view for what it's worth

[doodlebug]

By the way, it's a myth that it's a Lambo engine, it isn't.

[A20LEE]

By the way, it's a myth that it's a Lambo engine, it isn't.

Its got lamborghini cast into the block, just 200cc less capacity.

[don0301]

By the way, it's a myth that it's a Lambo engine, it isn't.

It's got a Lamborghini Bull cast into the block.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lamborghini_V10

"The Lamborghini V10 has also had a placement in the Audi R8, RS6"

[Jim Haseltine]

I never saw mine as an investment, but bang for buck, I still love it to bits 3 years into ownership

When I bought mine I set myself a rule; give it a year and if I think it's costing me too much money it'll go.
Well, I'm 14 months in and despite having an additional drain on my finances of around 1.5K a month (unconnected to the car) - it's staying for the foreseeable future.

[rs6_sid]

By the way, it's a myth that it's a Lambo engine, it isn't.

Its got lamborghini cast into the block, just 200cc less capacity.

it is the lamborghini engine block , a different forged crank that does not have a split pin design like the 5.2 engines.
practically the same engine and you could easily swap out parts between the 2 of them to change the specification of the engine.

[RS6chris!]

Tell you now...

If you wanna run a C6 DONT start worrying about residuals and running costs....if so don't get one...