Time for new brakes

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Time for new brakes

Post by kent_andy » Mon Jan 12, 2015 6:21 pm

HI all you knowledgeable people.

Well its brake time, as much as I want to go ceramics I want bigger wheels more so just need to change whats on there.

So I have a set of new discs OEM ones, but what pads and brake fluid are you guys all using?
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by classba » Mon Jan 12, 2015 7:12 pm

Andy, stick with OEM pads for feel. ATE super blue fluid and Hel brake hoses.
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by Shinobi675 » Tue Jan 13, 2015 6:28 am

I spent a while looking. Ap racing is a middle ground between oem and ramics. But basically people reckoned it wasn't the leap you'd want for the extra cost, I think they worked out at twice the cost of oem all round.
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by kent_andy » Tue Jan 13, 2015 7:33 am

Cheers guys,

Will order up today then.
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by adamgt » Sat Jan 17, 2015 6:28 pm

So without ceramics is it oem ?

Not be long before my car needs fronts doing, cant see AP discs lasting long on theses barges :mrgreen:
They didn't last long on my evo

The pagid rs pads were good though, anyone tried these, if available :oops:

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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by perthwaRS6 » Sat Jan 17, 2015 8:15 pm

If you want improved stopping power over the oem 390mm steels, but don't wish to spend the pounds on a ceramic upgrade but can afford a bit more than oem discs, I can highly recommend the MTM 405 mm steels front brake upgrade. Noticeable improvement in ability to pull the beast down from serious speed- 160mph+. :thumbs:

http://www.mtm-online.de/en/Audi/RS6-C6 ... s6bre405vk

just my two cents worth.

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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by adamgt » Sun Jan 18, 2015 7:08 pm

£2.5k for 2 discs though, jesus

I know you cant spend enough on something that stops the car well but :shock:

Just wondered if anyone has tried different pad combos , not fond of DS2500 or DS3000
Might get some Pagid's and try them

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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by Shinobi675 » Sun Jan 18, 2015 8:50 pm

adamgt wrote:£2.5k for 2 discs though, jesus

I know you cant spend enough on something that stops the car well but :shock:
You so can :) and £2.5k for something that's not ramics....
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by perthwaRS6 » Mon Feb 02, 2015 4:12 pm

Trust me, you will feel the difference with the 405mm front steels :thumbs:
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by kent_andy » Mon Feb 02, 2015 5:08 pm

I went for ceramics all round in the end. One word, phenomenal!
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by rtd » Tue Oct 27, 2015 9:29 am

kent_andy wrote:I went for ceramics all round in the end. One word, phenomenal!

andy did you buy brand new or s/h?
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by kent_andy » Tue Oct 27, 2015 11:11 am

I bought 2nd hand from ebay.de.

they had 18km on them, so like new, calipers were repainted satin red, but I believe kevin who bought it off me has now had them resprayed grey,
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by McF » Wed Oct 28, 2015 3:32 pm

Can vouch for the performance of the ceramics. Absolutely phenominal.

I did send the calipers of to Godspeed but they were appalling. Had them 3 weeks and did bugger all to them due to the fact they were too big to fit in the powder coating oven. Never thought to call or email me. After a lot of chasing managed to get them back a month and a half after they got them. They did however manage to machine new stainless pistons and get a new seal kit. I have now had a local company sort the powdercoating which I pick up tomorrow then need to reinstall the brakes back onto the car. Hopefully this better sort the squealing... :bash:

So, if you can stretch to getting ceramics, do it.
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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by R33 » Thu Oct 29, 2015 10:30 am

If they're squealing, you aint using them hard enough! ;)

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Re: Time for new brakes

Post by TomRS » Thu Oct 29, 2015 11:43 am

I run AP Racing discs on the rear with DS2500 pads, Tarox 400mm discs up front with Tarox medium compound pads with ATE Super Blue fluid.

I cannot complain at all about the performance, the 16 pot fronts stop the car well and from the few 120mph to 0 stops I’ve done in quick succession enough to have both front and rear discs glowing cherry red, I suffered no brake fade at all.
As for the cost of Ap rears even with the initial outlay of the bells I got them for £696 delivered from BG developments.

They have been on the car a while now and there is no disc wear or “lip” as of yet and I’m not exactly a fanny when it comes to using the brakes, the fronts are the same although next time round I won’t be using tarox discs as they are just too costly just over £1000 for two front’s.
I will be replacing with either AP or Alcon’s depending on BG as with it being a custom Tarox bell the discs will be custom made.


To answer really all I can say is I like the DS2500 pads as a rear setup wear and feel is great as with the AP disc, when running standard pads as good as they were at quickly dissipating the heat and returning to good feel pretty quick I wasn’t happy with the heat retained in the discs and the pads started to break away after a few track days.
The tarox setup is great, it’s nowhere near as good as ceramics but I got the full kit with brand new pads for cheap. I think I’m as close as I can get to ceramics without actually moving to them.
Having used a friends porsche with ramics I prefer my initial bite but continuous use is second to none and heat management is far superior on the ramics, it’s something I’ll upgrade too in the future.
But to the OP I’d say AP discs and DS2500 are a very good/better than OEM replacement, I’d run Pagid RS-19 or 29’s in the front instead of DS2500’s however.
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