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GTR
Posted: Thu Feb 23, 2012 4:18 pm
by dominic1
Hello all, had the rs4 for about 2 years and think its great , buttttttttttttt the call of a gtr is strong, could any of the fourm members give me the plus and neg points of owership, i will be spending about 42k on a 2010 model so it will have sat nav and ipod ect ect ect, it will be off a nissan dealer so it will have 12 months warranty, i am undecided at the min was looking at a rs6 but its too long to go on my drive so thats out of the window

also is any one going to the ring this year, i went last year with circuit days and had a great time but would rather go with poeple that i have met. but on the plus side i have just bought a white S3 from Bolton Audi for the wife so will still have a Audi in the family.
Many thanks for any advice you lot can give me
Re: GTR
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 7:14 pm
by karl
I went from a B7 to a GT-R in 2010. They are two completely different cars - in an ideal world I would have both as I still love my RS4 even though it's been gone a couple of years.
However, the GT-R is an awesome piece of kit. I ALWAYS shake my head after a drive in it as it's just so capable. In terms of response and road feel, it's the closest I have come to the feeling of riding a sports bike on the road.
Main thing to be aware of with the GT-R is the main dealers as they will rip you off like there's no tomorrow! I have always used Litchfield Imports for servicing; a more professional and customer focussed company you will not meet. Plus, they are a heck of a lot cheaper than main dealers and you can trust what they say.
You will want to modify your GT-R, trust me on that. The Litchfield Stage 1 offers the biggest bang for your buck and makes a huge difference; if you thought the std car was quick, think again! Add in a Y-pipe and job done. However, the nice thing about this car is that the list of upgrades is forever growing, so you can pick and choose what you'd like to do next.
The biggest thing I miss about my RS4 is the V8. I had non-res Milly with de-cat - gorgeous, gorgeous sound.
Re: GTR
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 9:24 pm
by victor2vt
Correct me if i'm wrong anyone, but i was told you can only buy replacement tyres from a Nissan main dealer, no one else, and they have you by the proverbial and stick it right up you on the price

Re: GTR
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 10:57 pm
by karl
victor2vt wrote:Correct me if i'm wrong anyone, but i was told you can only buy replacement tyres from a Nissan main dealer, no one else, and they have you by the proverbial and stick it right up you on the price

The OE tyres are Dunlop runflats. Nissan have seen fit to monopolise on the supply of these so you can only get them from a Nissan dealer and yes, they will rape you on the price
Thankfully, there is a second option, Bridgestone runflats which are a hell of a lot cheaper and were available from Kwik Fit. However, Kwik Fit are no longer a Bridgestone dealer...hmm.
There is soon to be a third option from Michelin.
There are other alternatives but not in exact same sizes and not runflats but that only means you need to carry a tyre repair kit in your boot which isn't much of a problem tbh.
If you're canny enough, you can, like me, keep an eye on the private market. I have managed to secure 2 sets of brand new Dunlops for the price that Nissan want for 1 set.
Don't let all the gossip about tyres sway your decision on a GT-R. If you use common sense, you can really cut lots of costs.
Re: GTR
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:21 pm
by adsgreen
Thing I with the gtr is to ignore the initial purchase price.
Regardless what Nissan sell it for its a 100k-120k car with 120k car running costs that happens to be sold for 60k.
Re: GTR
Posted: Sun Feb 26, 2012 11:54 pm
by karl
adsgreen wrote:Thing I with the gtr is to ignore the initial purchase price.
Regardless what Nissan sell it for its a 100k-120k car with 120k car running costs that happens to be sold for 60k.
I disagree. If you're going to use it as a frequent trackday car then maybe you'll get close to those sorts of costs with tyres/brakes/increased servicing etc.
If not then it won't cost you anywhere near a £120k car running cost.
What made you think that?
Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:59 am
by adsgreen
I know th owners of three and they all run several other exotic cars.
All have said there not much in it.
From litchfeld site (do not even a dealer)
Nissan GTR replacement brake disc options
Performance Friction Front Brake Disc - £589.87
Performance Friction Rear Brake Disc - £628.66
That's per disc.
Ferrari f430 - £289 a pair
Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 9:01 am
by 535dboy
There are three in my group of friends
I've been driven around Spa by a friend whose is only knocking out 650 Bhp but was on slicks and we were all over a wheel heeled GT2 RS.
Same car at Silverstone all over a race prepped 458 fezza that ended up going off under the pressure
I drove it at Silverstone on slicks and it was great fun
Driven another one on the road with 950bhp which is just awesome
If you have £100-150k to splash on a car then is the other option
http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/159559-tazma ... 1200r.html Guess what my username is over there

Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 2:47 pm
by approved
I took my last rs4 to middlehurst to swap it for a Gtr.
it just seemed the obvious car to go into.
test drove it, and decided against it.
No doubting the capability of the car, but for day to day use, the rs4 is much nicer place to be.
to this day i'm confident i have made the right decision, and not i've sorted myself out workwise, i 've been looking to get back into something proper again.
Again, Gtr not on the list, and it was going to be either another nice rs4 or an E60 M5, or a 63 amg, finally plumping for the M5.
I simply couldnt get on with the interior of the Gtr, and if i'm honest, i didnt like the attention it got from other road users, especially the young lads. Given i would only be using the performance for the odd blat here and there, its made little sense to be in one if if i didnt like the things i've mentioned.
just my opinion.
p.s i looked into costings as well, as they arent anywhere near as bad as some people suggest, you just need to be aware of where to go etc, as previously mentioned.
if you fancy one, a lengthy test drive will convince you either way.
Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 3:57 pm
by dominic1
cheers for the feedback, took one out on sunday, and was to be honest blown away the perfomance of it , i can understand about the cabin, but to be honest audi are brill with the inside of cars and not a lot else comes close, bought a new pick up for work so i will use that as a DD were i used to use the RS4, so wont do as many miles in it as i have done in the past. Attention..... yes i agree on that one you do slip under the rader in a RS4 and i like that side of it, proberly why i have been able to use as much as i have, if a customer knows about cars you can use it to stike up a good converstaion, if he has no idea then its just a red estate car

, a lot depends on the numbers they come up with, as brill as it was i can not justify spending a massive amount on a car.
Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 7:11 pm
by rs4blacked
approved wrote:
Again, Gtr not on the list, and it was going to be either another nice rs4 or an E60 M5, or a 63 amg, finally plumping for the M5.
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I use to work for BMW the E60 M5 is and always will be an awesome car the downside most we sold usually spent a lot of time in the workshop needing software updates.
A good customer bought one and for the 1st 3 months ownership the car spent more time at the dealer for warranty work needing software updates and replacement parts
Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:47 pm
by S14
Ive done the same and gone from an RS4 to a GTR..I did miss the RS4 for a bit but the GTR is in a different league altogether and the real dilema is where do you go after the GTR! ..agree with Karls above with respect to running costs..a little bit of common sense prevails and using Litchfields etc you can cut costs significantly..

Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 8:53 pm
by rs4blacked
As much as I like the GTR.
1. It has too many electronic gizmo's to help drive it.
2. It is turbo'd, naturally aspirated is the way to go.
Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:31 pm
by approved
rs4blacked wrote:approved wrote:
Again, Gtr not on the list, and it was going to be either another nice rs4 or an E60 M5, or a 63 amg, finally plumping for the M5.
.
I use to work for BMW the E60 M5 is and always will be an awesome car the downside most we sold usually spent a lot of time in the workshop needing software updates.
A good customer bought one and for the 1st 3 months ownership the car spent more time at the dealer for warranty work needing software updates and replacement parts
This will be my second one.. I'm up to speed ish with the foibles, but I managed to find a one owner 36k car, recent tyres, discs and pads all round, etc. Dealer did me a two year warranty, and taxed it for 12 months as part of the deal,so we agreed terms.
I asked them to do all and any updates that were available. Apparently it took 5 hours, and then threw the red cog of death.
They have ended up changing the clutch,flywheel,clutch position sensor and slave cylinder, and now, by all accounts all is well. Saved me about 4 grand anyway.
Seems these halo models all have their issues!
Re: GTR
Posted: Mon Feb 27, 2012 10:46 pm
by rs4blacked
approved wrote:rs4blacked wrote:approved wrote:
Again, Gtr not on the list, and it was going to be either another nice rs4 or an E60 M5, or a 63 amg, finally plumping for the M5.
.
I use to work for BMW the E60 M5 is and always will be an awesome car the downside most we sold usually spent a lot of time in the workshop needing software updates.
A good customer bought one and for the 1st 3 months ownership the car spent more time at the dealer for warranty work needing software updates and replacement parts
This will be my second one.. I'm up to speed ish with the foibles, but I managed to find a one owner 36k car, recent tyres, discs and pads all round, etc. Dealer did me a two year warranty, and taxed it for 12 months as part of the deal,so we agreed terms.
I asked them to do all and any updates that were available. Apparently it took 5 hours, and then threw the red cog of death.
They have ended up changing the clutch,flywheel,clutch position sensor and slave cylinder, and now, by all accounts all is well. Saved me about 4 grand anyway.
Seems these halo models all have their issues!
The longest I've ever seen a car on a diagnostic machine for updates was a M6 it took a full 23 hours after having 3 of its main control units replaced