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Airbox flap DIY guide

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 11:29 am
by neckarsulm
Just a rough draft, will finish it off soon

http://www.volkswizard.co.uk/airbox.htm

RE: Airbox flap DIY guide

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 12:37 pm
by sonny
Great write up, very helpful. I came close to purchasing one of the ITG air filters.

RE: Airbox flap DIY guide

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 3:49 pm
by lengster1
Top effort i appreciate your time in doing it for everyones benefit,i will take you up on your offer of supplying me a new solenoid valve please,pm me details Thanks Rich

RE: Airbox flap DIY guide

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:22 pm
by Dave_M
Great write up - wish that had been around a month or so ago! I ended up paying Audi - though they did only charge me 1/2 hour labour to remove the airbox and lube up the flap mechanism. All seems to be working ok since.

Dave

RE: Airbox flap DIY guide

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 6:50 pm
by RS4KILLA
excellent thanks

RE: Airbox flap DIY guide

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 7:05 pm
by neckarsulm
Dave, 1/2 an hour is bloody good, are you sure they removed it completely as you can lube it with just the airbox lid off or even with just the snorkel out and a bit of spraying behind the headlamp.

I'd say 1.5 to 2 hrs with diagnosis

I'm going to add part numbers and prices (after which I'll PM you Rich as don't have price here) and also a link to video of the flap working and also a defective one.

RE: Airbox flap DIY guide

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 9:01 pm
by scaghead
well done, this will be a excellent guide to owners in the future....

Posted: Sun Oct 24, 2010 10:37 pm
by neckarsulm
Glad you like it and of course I am happy to incorporate any suggestions.

Just updated it with videos of good and bad flaps (right at end) and scrawled on some of the images to clarify things.

Price and part numbers I'll do tomorrow.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:45 pm
by adsgreen
It might be just me but a couple wide angle overview shots (only a couple) with some bits marked up would make a great guide even better.
I find some of the close shots very detailled but hard to visualise in the grand view of the engine bay.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 12:56 pm
by neckarsulm
I did think that, so will do!
If you can tell me which pics in particular are hard to place I will take the pics that show them in context

Prices from Audi as of 20/10/10 are as follows

Air box base (inc flap) 079129614D £56.37 + VAT = £66.24
Solenoid valve 037906283C £48.42 + VAT = £56.90

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:02 pm
by RS4FTW
Thanks for that DIY. Appreciate it.

I refer back to a post i made a few weeks ago. My flap is sticking in the open position. How bad is this to leave it like that ?

Although in saying that whenever i start the VCDS test the flap is closed. So not sure why it isnt closing during the test.

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:13 pm
by neckarsulm
I refer back to a post i made a few weeks ago. My flap is sticking in the open position. How bad is this to leave it like that ?
Sorry I didn't reply, it wont do any harm, just might knock the timing back a bit at the top end.

As for it sticking, undo the vac pipe and see if it still sticks, if it does it's the flap sticking on body. It might pop itself free over time as the spring pressure is quite high hence why it's shut when you go back to it.
I doubt it'll be the valve as with the engine off this isn't energised anyway

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:18 pm
by RS4FTW
neckarsulm wrote:
I refer back to a post i made a few weeks ago. My flap is sticking in the open position. How bad is this to leave it like that ?
Sorry I didn't reply, it wont do any harm, just might knock the timing back a bit at the top end.

As for it sticking, undo the vac pipe and see if it still sticks, if it does it's the flap sticking on body. It might pop itself free over time as the spring pressure is quite high hence why it's shut when you go back to it.
I doubt it'll be the valve as with the engine off this isn't energised anyway
Thanks for the reply

Why would it knock back timing on top end ? Wouldnt it pull back under 5000 rpm as now its sucking in hot air. Top end it should be open afaik.

How can i lube it without taking the entire airbox out ?

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:29 pm
by neckarsulm
Why would it knock back timing on top end ? Wouldnt it pull back under 5000 rpm as now its sucking in hot air. Top end it should be open afaik.
Not so much demand on timing at lower revs, needs to be advanced as far as it feels safe to get max efficiency at higher revs, hot air/bad fuel will peg this back and reduce power output, that's all.

Look at first pic, from the diaphragm to the flap is a linkage, you need to lube this while operating the flap with your hand through the snorkel inlet. The diaphragm all tucked behind and under the headlamp so use a torch to locate it and spray away using flexi nozzle

Posted: Mon Oct 25, 2010 1:34 pm
by RS4FTW
neckarsulm wrote:
Why would it knock back timing on top end ? Wouldnt it pull back under 5000 rpm as now its sucking in hot air. Top end it should be open afaik.
Not so much demand on timing at lower revs, needs to be advanced as far as it feels safe to get max efficiency at higher revs, hot air/bad fuel will peg this back and reduce power output, that's all.

Look at first pic, from the diaphragm to the flap is a linkage, you need to lube this while operating the flap with your hand through the snorkel inlet. The diaphragm all tucked behind and under the headlamp so use a torch to locate it and spray away using flexi nozzle
Thanks, how about i just spray the <beep> out of everything :D

What spray do you recommend ? WD40 ?