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Crazy Trade in Prices

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 7:58 pm
by GBrownlow
Just looked into trading in my 2 yr old RS4 cabriolet with 10k miles ( full spec £62 k new ) against a new Aston Martin V8 and was only offered £32k ?!!!!
It books at £40k with 20k miles in clean condition so I was hoping for more than that plus an over allowance.
Strikes me dealers are scared to take in any big lumps and can't shift the stock they are already sitting on. Even so £32k is taking the pi55.
Whilst the AM V8 looks gorgeous on the plus side having driven both cars back to back I think the RS4 is the better drivers car - feels quicker, drives easier and handling definitely better.

RE: Crazy Trade in Prices

Posted: Sat Sep 27, 2008 9:43 pm
by SR71
The law of supply and demand.

They only get away with offering these crazy prices because people keep giving their cars away inspite of them!

There are Saloons and Avants of various specs sitting on forecourts around Cardiff for >£43K.

Let a dealer make £10K off me?

Some might think that about right, but I'd rather hack off my left leg.

thats a rip off

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 2:36 am
by jacksrs4
they offered me 42 against new m3 . mines a 06 cab with 23OOO miles on

RE: thats a rip off

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 7:13 am
by quattrokid1
these cars are WAY over priced to start with, so after the 17.5% VAT is removed as you drive it out the showroom, then depreciation as its now tagged " as used" you lose another chunk of value.

There was a silver cab RS4 at Glasgow Audi for £59k...probably taken home now by a sales reps.
If you can afford these cars then your not too worried about the meteoric fall in value and with the current financial climate makes matters even worse.

Have to agree that the Aston looks a stunningly beautiful car :bigblink:

RE: thats a rip off

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:27 am
by A20LEE
i know a few traders and a major issue is, if they have the car in stock for six months which is very common it will have lost alot of money on the forecourt. They're having to turn them over quickly so buy cheap, sell cheap or they get stung.

RE: thats a rip off

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:34 am
by dace
AM's are lovely looking cars, however keep your RS4. It will nail the AM in every departrment IMO.

I had a blat with a DB9 a couple of weeks ago. No competition whatsoever....

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 9:29 am
by P_G
The new AMV8 is a different prospect and now has the 'go' the old one should have. HOwever all said in today driving conditions unless on a track an AMV8 is never going to get too far away from an RS4.

And if you keep you RS4 you'll only get hit by meteoric depreciation once.

I disagree with quattrokid1's comment though, I worked hard to aford my RS4 and am at the edge of my potential to own one but that was my risk. Meteoric depreciation I can do without, however as I doubt there is any other car I would need because I can't explore the maximum potential of the RS4's capabilities on a regular basis and am soon to have two kids I'm not changing for a long time.

Posted: Sun Sep 28, 2008 8:15 pm
by Contigo
Seen a 40k mile 2006 RS4 B7 saloon like my old one on Pheads for under 30k this is a milestone for these motors now and it's mad really.

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 8:40 am
by tartan_rob
My ebay auction is up today. Now i know ebay is not the best place to sell but bearing in mind it has been on pistonheads for about 6weeks with not even a single phone call or email - I thought it was worth a punt.

The bidding on this has to be indicative of where these cars retail price really is....

ebay item 110291078287

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:01 am
by P_G
Good luck Rob, will you sell even if your reserve isn't met?

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 9:43 am
by Contigo
Will they come down much lower than this in the next 6 months?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/639240.htm

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:05 am
by mbelle
Contigo wrote:Will they come down much lower than this in the next 6 months?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/639240.htm
Wants to trade with a B5 RS4 as well...

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 10:09 am
by P_G
You've got to say that is a high mileage car for its age, an accelerating factor of the depreciation. I would imagine with half the mileage it would be a far higher value given 'average mileage is 12000 p.a.

Re: RE: Crazy Trade in Prices

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 1:50 pm
by Robbo66
SR71 wrote:The law of supply and demand.

They only get away with offering these crazy prices because people keep giving their cars away inspite of them!

There are Saloons and Avants of various specs sitting on forecourts around Cardiff for >£43K.

Let a dealer make £10K off me?

Some might think that about right, but I'd rather hack off my left leg.
The Avant outside Bentley is my old car. Sold at £37500. I cannot believe that some are saying stick with the Audi against the AMV8 for the better driving dynamics of the Audi. I had an AMV8 2 years ago and found it superb, far more presence and appeal than the RS4, you can't even begin to compare.

Be careful not to be blinkered by opinions tainted towards an RS4 in an attempt to justify their own purchase/decision in their own minds.

Buy the AMV8.

RE: Re: RE: Crazy Trade in Prices

Posted: Mon Sep 29, 2008 2:20 pm
by Marcus-RS4
For the increase in cost for the AMV8 - it wouldnt give me the same increase in power, handling, presence... just IMO, obviously...