The B7 RS4............A future Classic car ?

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The B7 RS4............A future Classic car ?

Post by victor2vt » Wed Aug 13, 2008 2:29 pm

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Post by tartan_rob » Wed Aug 13, 2008 3:32 pm

I think so. It reset the benchmark for non supercar performance.
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Post by Contigo » Wed Aug 13, 2008 7:02 pm

Maybe but production numbers too many for real classic staus like Lotus Carlton, RS2's and even RS4 B5's which are slowly creeping into the 'classic' category.
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Post by dom888 » Wed Aug 13, 2008 8:15 pm

Too common to be a classic.

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Post by William_Blake » Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:31 pm

It was the first Audi that actually drove well :p

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Post by ARSEY4 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 8:59 am

If all cars become smaller engined then i think it would. Last of the v8s etc.

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Post by ARSEY4 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 9:00 am

dom888 wrote:Too common to be a classic.
I think you forgot the smiley face to show everyone you were being funny.

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Post by Nige_RS4 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:18 am

ARSEY4 wrote:
dom888 wrote:Too common to be a classic.
I think you forgot the smiley face to show everyone you were being funny.
I think it was left off deliberately :roll:

Is the M3 a future classic? I doubt it, maybe the CSL.
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Post by Dom81 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:52 am

ARSEY4 wrote:
dom888 wrote:Too common to be a classic.
I think you forgot the smiley face to show everyone you were being funny.
I think it's a genuine comment, or at least I'd tend to agree...

It's not an immediate classic by virtue of design or innovation (unlike say the original iPod, Bic Crystal, Eames chair etc.) and in the medium term it's volume would prevent it being a classic by virtue of rarity

I think it will continue to be a very desirable car, and a benchmark for performance, looks, build etc. People will still want one in the future, but does that make it a classic??
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Post by svassileou » Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:56 am

Do numbers produced really impact on something being a classic, or just impact its value when it becomes one?

How many E-types/TR6s are out there, for example? Loads, but they're still classics, right?

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Post by Thorny » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:00 am

I think it is too mass-produced to be a classic and it also looks too much like a regular A4 to be one.

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Post by PetrolDave » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:32 am

Thorny wrote:it also looks too much like a regular A4
Really?

In the first 6 months of ownership at least one occupant in most cars that I passed or passed me could be seen to look and point, and lip reading usually revealed something like "Look, Dad/Mum/brother/friend, an RS4!"

The differences are subtle and not "in your face" but visible enough for most people to see at a glance.

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Post by ARSEY4 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:43 am

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The numbers produced dont mean a thing.
The comment "too common" apart from being factually incorrect is just not relevant.
As I said above if manufacturers have a sudden change in heart about large engined cars then I think it will. The B7 rs4 was/is a mile stone in large engined sports saloons. The e92 M3 is living proof that audi got it right and bm got it wrong. 57 plate m3s are now on a par price wise with 07 rs4s in fact a lot have dipped below 40k. Not saying it will stay that way but at the mo it looks better for an rs4.

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Post by Dom81 » Thu Aug 14, 2008 11:47 am

ARSEY4 wrote:Mini
Morris Minor
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As I said, classic by virtue of design or innovation. I love my RS4, but in "Classic" terms the ones above are in a different league...
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Post by Contigo » Thu Aug 14, 2008 1:28 pm

Exactly, it's the second gen of the RS4 and undoubtedly won't be a classic like the original B5 Avant. Plus the numbers of B5's makes them even more exclusive than the more mass produced, three model B7 (Saloon,Avant and Cab)

I also think the classic Quattro and Forced induction combination which Audi are World famous for keeps the B5 more in the "classic" category as the V8 whilst great as it is, it's too new and too temporary a solution. I can see a complete turnaround on the large engined fast Audi's in the future in favour for the smaller engined forced indution units.
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