RS4 - End of term

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RS4 - End of term

Post by DoctorD » Wed Mar 12, 2008 7:50 pm

I bought my RS4 Avant back last September and will be soon be putting it up for sale and wishing it farewell. I've been very impressed with it and thoroughly enjoyed our time together.

If you remember I bought my RS4 on the back of the feature I did when the new M3 was launched last summer (I drove EVO's RS4 down to Marbella for the comparison). It's been everything I thought it would be, an excellent daily companion, good to cruise in but also rewarding to drive quickly along my local twisty b-roads.

Some of the downsides of RS4 ownership have been how stealthy it has been in the UK. It seems a lot of drivers suffer from myopia and cannot see its bulging haunches and lowered stance. It's strange to have Passat Tdi drivers thinking they qualify for a challenge, when the same thing rarely happens in an M-power car.

However, the exact opposite was true when driving in France or Italy where I found my mugello blue RS4 was treated like a rock-star. At one point on our return trip from the Alps last month we had a group of young French locals ask us if they could photograph themselves next to our RS4. We then proceeded to watch them for 15 minutes or more take group photos, with lots of smiles and hand gestures to signal their awe at being next to such an icon. Very strange, and had we not insisted on ending their impromptu photoshoot I'm sure they'd still be at it. All through France and Spain, I had complete strangers asking me to rev the engine and let them photograph it, so the complete opposite to how the RS4 is received in the UK.

Another high point in the RS4's time with me was when I compared it to the R8 I was planning on buying. To my surprise I found the RS4 better in several key areas. The RS4 felt sportier, the engine was more torquey and its steering was more positive and feelsome - not what I initially wanted to discover. Consequently I decided not to continue with my R8 purchase since it just didn't feel worth the premium over the already capable RS4.

Finally, I took our RS4 skiing a few weeks ago and despite the pessimistic assurances of Audi, I actually found that YOU CAN fit snow chains to the RS4 (Weissenfels Clack and Go Quattro, if you're interested) and our RS4 proved a perfectly capable companion on the 1600 mile journey, and tackling the snowy roads once we reached our destination.

So, what would I change? Well I still think that Audi have engineered a better 'bottom end' to the power delivery in their S5, and the S5 also turns into corners with more assurance and bite. I would like the quattro set-up to emulate the R8 in being rear-biased, and it would be great to switch of ESP and not end up with bucket loads of understeer.

But otherwise, it's been a great car and probably the best car Audi have ever built (along with the R8 ), so hopefully I might own another RS car in the future.

Moving forwards, I'll certainly be driving plenty of Audis. Some of you may already have heard that Chris Harris of Autocar, and Richard Meaden and Jethro Bovingdon of EVO have recently left......

Well they've joined me in a publication that I've set up which will bring you all much closer to the enjoyment that I've experienced over the years, whether testing cars or learning about the next great experience in driving.

The next Audi I'll be driving is suffixed with LP640, so maybe I won't be missing my RS4 after all! (well, that's almost an Audi isn't it?) :lol:

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Post by hugy » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:05 pm

Very good review of the RS4 Steve.Interesting to note that you prefer it to the R8.What are your thoughts on the M3?
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Post by Dom81 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:05 pm

Thanks for another interesting post Steve - you'll be missed. Look forward to hearing more about the new publication though - you've certainly secured some amazing colleagues!
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Post by DoctorD » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:16 pm

hugy wrote:Very good review of the RS4 Steve.Interesting to note that you prefer it to the R8.What are your thoughts on the M3?
I just find the RS4 a more honest, good value car than the R8, even though the R8 is dynamically superior I am never impressed with a car just because of its looks. The R8 is still a great car, but it actually shows how good the RS4 was in the first place.

I still like the M3, its more fun to drive near its limit than the RS4, but the RS4 is better to live with at lower speeds and difficult conditions. That's often used as some kind of lame excuse, and although I love hanging the tail out on a rear wheel drive car, there's a different kind of fun to be had in the RS4 in wet or slippery conditions that is satisfying in its own right.

I've obviously been spending a lot of time with Chris Harris, who you know has an E92 M3 and used to own a B7 RS4, he loves his M3 but still misses his RS4 and looked longingly at mine one evening when we left the office in a blizzard. They're different cars but both rightly praised for their strengths. I just don't think it matters which is better, because that's not important when you drive either. The fact that Audi built a car that could be compared on even terms with the M3 is a 'huge' achievement and if only they can continue doing so in future RS models, then we'll all be happy.

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Post by S4INT » Wed Mar 12, 2008 8:51 pm

Great write up Steve - I had the same thing in France last year with people literally hanging out of their cars trying to take pictures and groups of people congregating around the car every time I parked it up. :rocker:

You are right though, it hardly gets a second glance in this country!

Anyway, good luck in your new venture, with those guys working with you, the new publication should be superb. :beerchug:
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Post by Dom81 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:27 pm

I missed the LP640 bit earlier, and would like to retract my kind comments. I hope it breaks down frequently, depreciates like Zimbabwe economy, and takes your magazine with it...

Yours enviously etc. :bowdown:
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Post by SR71 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 9:38 pm

PMSL!

Appreciated your contributions Steve.

By chance, did you get any shots of the car with the snow-chains on?

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Post by Ozrs4 » Wed Mar 12, 2008 10:59 pm

Hi Steve,
It has always been a pleasure reading your posts on this forum as they are very informative and unbiased. Glad to know the RS4 is still highly regarded, I'm confident Audi will produce better RS models in the future. Can you tell us more about the new publication you're doing? Cheers.
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Post by DoctorD » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:04 pm

SR71 wrote:PMSL!

Appreciated your contributions Steve.

By chance, did you get any shots of the car with the snow-chains on?

ATB with the new venture.
I took these pics when I was testing the clearances in my garage...

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I will probably be putting them up for sale, plus the Weissenfels snow socks that I bought for the rear wheels.

That seemed the best configuration by the way, there is enough clearance on the front wheels for the chains but I wasn't as comfortable fitting them to the rear particularly once the boot was loaded up and passengers were on board. I am certain though that you can take an RS4 to the snow using standard wheels/tyres provided you fit this configuration.
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Post by DoctorD » Wed Mar 12, 2008 11:12 pm

Ozrs4 wrote:Hi Steve,
It has always been a pleasure reading your posts on this forum as they are very informative and unbiased. Glad to know the RS4 is still highly regarded, I'm confident Audi will produce better RS models in the future. Can you tell us more about the new publication you're doing? Cheers.
Thanks very much.

We will be launching a microsite in the next month or so that should hopefully show you better than I can describe, but I believe there is a lot more that the industry can offer its readers and customers and perhaps it takes someone outside the industry to realise that.

I'm like a kid on Christmas Eve and can't wait to show you, but give us a few weeks.

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Post by SR71 » Wed Dec 17, 2008 1:42 pm

Just to confirm the Weissenfel's Clack and Go Quattro's will fit the 275/30/19 combo with some adjustments compared to the 255/35/19 tyre.

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Once you get the chain adjusted to the correct size, they're easy to work with. Like DoctorD said, though, I'm not sure I'd try them on the rear, and if you've got SS+, ummmm......

I'm off in 2 weeks...
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Socks on all four?

Post by weblissimo » Wed Dec 17, 2008 8:22 pm

Anyone tried the socks on all four wheels...I've seen too many mashed arches with chains having done seasons in the snow so very nervous about putting even the Clack & Go on my RS4.

Had my previous S4 in the snow a couple of times and never had to fit chains anyway - as it's usually just a drive in and park the car for a week.
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Post by ghoonk » Thu Dec 18, 2008 2:11 pm

Doc, I'm looking forward to the new publication, looks like you have a great team on board!
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Post by SR71 » Thu Dec 18, 2008 4:37 pm

Keep up ghoonk...

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They've been going a while now!

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