Latest views on Brake Pad options

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Latest views on Brake Pad options

Post by lugars4 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 2:21 pm

Started with OEM.

Replaced fronts with the Ferodo FDB4165. Not great or bad, just fine.
One reason for replacing at the time was the OEM pad problems with pins scoring sliders before the sensors triggered. Is this resolved now? Must be….

Now replacing all my discs and lines and fluid. Contemplating the following options.
Road use only. With trips around the alps so will get some hard use but once a year…

1) OEM again - Expensive and I recall dusty, but rears have lasted very well (only ever had OEM rears)
2) EBC Yellow stuff - mixed reviews, but many happy users I see.
3) DS2500, had them on previous Audi, with the cost of discs on the RS, are they kind enough for day to day use without eating discs too much. Happy with the sensor delete etc.
4) Anything else?
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Re: Latest views on Brake Pad options

Post by dan32v » Sat Mar 02, 2024 6:37 pm

TRW ...Not great or bad, just fine....too.

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Post by lugars4 » Sat Mar 02, 2024 11:00 pm

Thanks.

Anyone with:

Hawk

MINTEX

PAGID RS29

Etc?
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Post by coffey555 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 2:55 pm

I tried some cheap Pagid pads once...... lasted one drive as they were dangerous! Stuck with OEM ever since.
The backing plate pins scoring the disc issue has been resolved years ago.

One option I was really tempted by was Endless MX72 pads. They get rave reviews from R35 GT-R owners but the price is quite high!
Still, low dust, excellent performance AND kind to disc rotors was never going to be a cheap option.

Could work out cost effective if rotor life is extended though......

https://promodperformance.co.uk/product ... e-pads-323
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Post by lugars4 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 3:21 pm

They look very nice! Had not investigated them, will take a look now.

Thanks for sharing your thoughts.
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Post by JRC1 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:06 pm

DS2500. Fitted front and rear a year or so ago, coded out the sensors and they are excellent. A serious step up in performance over standard pads and wear has been nice and even (and very minimal so far). They aren't cheap though.

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Post by lugars4 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:46 pm

Thanks JRC1.

How are you finding them from cold, should be quite good?
Its over 10 years since i ran them...

Found a bit of feedback comparing DS2500, Yellow stuff and MX72 here, just one opinion, but interesting:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-racin ... 156/page3/

"Initial Bite: HC+800 > MX72 > DS2500 >> EBC yellow >> NS400
Hot Friction: HC+800 ~ = MX72 > DS2500 > EBC yellow >>> NS400
Dust: NS400 > MX72 >> DS2500 >>> EBC yellow > HC+800
Hot Modulation: MX72 > HC+800 > DS2500 > EBC yellow > NS400."

Prices im finding (Have sent a number of requests for prices out tonight), any recommendations on where to buy either?

************************* UPDATED 07.03.2024 ************************************************
MX72 (Front EIP159, Rear EIP149)
- £590 VIP Motorsport, 2-4 weeks
- £631 ML Performance uk supplier, 4-5 weeks lead time
- £627 ProMod Performance, 6 weeks+ lead time
- £445 Nengun from Japan, potential for import duty on top? - ORDERED

- Demon Tweaks - No Reply
- R53 Engineering - No Reply
- M-Sport - Cant Supply
- Torque Distribution - Dormant Company?

DS2500 (Front FCP1664H [2x required], Rear FCP1655H)
- £683 Progressive Parts
- £625 Demon Tweaks
- £622 Lark Speed
- £570 Autodoc (Worth noting, i refreshed the price every day on my discs from them and they change a lot, one day discs dropped £400, snapped them up)
- £529 Ebay
- £512 Wall brook performance
- £378 Amazon De (fronts), AutoDoc (rears)
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Post by JRC1 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 7:19 pm

lugars4 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 6:46 pm
Thanks JRC1.

How are you finding them from cold, should be quite good?
Its over 10 years since i ran them...

Found a bit of feedback comparing DS2500, Yellow stuff and MX72 here, just one opinion, but interesting:
https://www.s2ki.com/forums/s2000-racin ... 156/page3/

"Initial Bite: HC+800 > MX72 > DS2500 >> EBC yellow >> NS400
Hot Friction: HC+800 ~ = MX72 > DS2500 > EBC yellow >>> NS400
Dust: NS400 > MX72 >> DS2500 >>> EBC yellow > HC+800
Hot Modulation: MX72 > HC+800 > DS2500 > EBC yellow > NS400."

Prices im finding (Have sent a number of requests for prices out tonight), any recommendations on where to buy either?

MX72 (Front EIP159, Rear EIP149)
- £1044 ML Performance uk supplier
- £721 Nengun imorted from Japan, potential for import duty on top.
- Emailed: Demon Tweaks, VIP Motorsport, R53 Engineering, M-Sport, ProMod performance for prices/availability. Will share here.

DS2500 (Front FCP1664H, Rear FCP1655H)
- £683 Progressive Parts
- £625 Demon Tweaks
- £622 Lark Speed
- £570 Autodoc (Worth noting, i refreshed the price every day on my discs from them and they change a lot, one day discs dropped £400, snapped them up)
- £529 Ebay
- £512 Wall brook performance
Excellent from cold. I took the RS out yesterday funnily enough for the first time in a while, was about 2 degrees here and they instill confidence straight away. I can really leave it late to brake if I need or want to and absolutely could not do this with OEM pads. The OEM pads gave me very little confidnence on such a heavy performance car like the B7.

I used a company called WG Motorparts and paid £300 for fronts and £130 for rears so £430 total. This was 1 year ago, so prices may have gone up a bit. Annoyingly, their website doesn't seem available at present so not sure if they have stopped trading or just doing some maintenance. But either way, gives you some added context on price. May be worth dropping them a message on Facebook. Otherwise, I think eBay was 2nd cheapest when I was looking - and some of the eBay sellers will sell for less than the listed price if they have a website as they avoid eBay fees that way. £~500ish is ok but I wouldn't pay much more. With a bit of luck you'll be able to pick them up for high £400's.

They truly are an excellent pad for fast road/occasional track use. Unlike other track or fast road focussed pads, they aren't poor from cold or so track focussed that they become an issue for every day driving, which is great.

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Post by lugars4 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:05 pm

Great, thanks i will try to contact them for pricing.

Will be interesting to get pricing in from all the MX72 suppliers, i am expecting all uk suppliers will be more than Nengun.
So clearly they are a lot more than DS2500, which is making the DS look attractive.

Question will be if my curiosity of the MX72 is worth the wait / money, they sound great, but also the most expensive pads on earth (it feels). :wink:
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Post by lugars4 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:52 pm

Found front and rear DS2500 for £398!

Will see what other prices come in tomorrow.
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Post by JRC1 » Sun Mar 03, 2024 11:22 pm

lugars4 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 9:52 pm
Found front and rear DS2500 for £398!

Will see what other prices come in tomorrow.
That's an amazing price! Let us know who you end up getting them from :)

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Post by coffey555 » Mon Mar 04, 2024 9:22 am

lugars4 wrote:
Sun Mar 03, 2024 8:05 pm
Great, thanks i will try to contact them for pricing.

Will be interesting to get pricing in from all the MX72 suppliers, i am expecting all uk suppliers will be more than Nengun.
So clearly they are a lot more than DS2500, which is making the DS look attractive.

Question will be if my curiosity of the MX72 is worth the wait / money, they sound great, but also the most expensive pads on earth (it feels). :wink:
I had not factored in that 2 sets of pads are required for the front axle! Agreed that they sound absolutely perfect for fast road use but that price... If the dust is as easy to wipe off as they say and is non aggressive, then I suppose it would save on having the wheels refurbished every 5 years or so.

Man maths at its best....
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Post by lugars4 » Mon Mar 04, 2024 10:16 pm

It’s possible (hopeful) the front set could come as a full set. Other manufacturers don’t. But one supplier suggested he thinks they do today, will confirm.

If the front is a full set, I will be tempered to try them.
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Post by coffey555 » Tue Mar 05, 2024 9:31 am

Yeah, I am tempted as well. But will need to wait until I need to replace my discs though.

I have no issue with the performance of the OEM pads and discs to be honest. But easy clean and low dust is selling it to me!!!

The other option is to switch to ceramic front discs but that is a massive expense. Plus you will go through rears much more quickly and the pedal feel is a bit wooden.
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Re: Latest views on Brake Pad options

Post by JamesBaby » Tue Mar 05, 2024 10:38 am

Autodoc are the cheapest for DS2500's front and rear. Get their app and set notifications. They regularly have 45-48% off deals. I got a full front & rear set for £384 delivered.

FCP1664H x 2 fronts
FCP1655H x1 rear

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