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Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 4:29 pm
by 12th
I don't use Pistonheads, but won't complain if the article turns out to be right about future values.
https://www.pistonheads.com/features/ph ... -r34/39555
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 5:59 pm
by Mark Park
Nice read that mate thank you
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Sat Feb 02, 2019 9:58 pm
by super7
Really good article. Love driving mine, the recent snow was fun and makes you realise how capable all round the car is. Interesting how dull the latest RS4 sounds by comparison.
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Sun Feb 03, 2019 11:19 am
by Covkiller
Great article, indeed. There's nothing like a 750 miles+ road trip to the Alps in an RS4, driving the glass smooth French Autoroutes and going through the tunnels in Grenoble.
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 8:15 am
by super7
Seems like the B7 is getting little mentions here and there. Chris Harris referenced it in an
Instagram post recently.....
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:33 am
by 12th
When he ran the RS4 as a long-termer, he loved it and couldn't praise it highly enough. Then, when he bought an M3 (this time with his own money), all of a sudden it was an inferior product. Though when Steve Sutcliffe did a back to back on both for the same magazine, he arrived at the opposite conclusion. I haven't trusted Harris's words since.
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:39 pm
by super7
Fair enough, that is a bit of up and down. M cars a fantastic but I love how easy the RS is. Wet and dry it’s unreal, rear wheel M cars are beyond the capability of most drivers to get the max out of it. The RS is much more accessible I think.
Did anyone see this carwow drag race:
https://youtu.be/owCIkMbvMi8
M3 csl vs RS4 B7. Unfair but interesting final thoughts on it...
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:22 pm
by marc1
12th wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:33 am
When he ran the RS4 as a long-termer, he loved it and couldn't praise it highly enough. Then, when he bought an M3 (this time with his own money), all of a sudden it was an inferior product. Though when Steve Sutcliffe did a back to back on both for the same magazine, he arrived at the opposite conclusion. I haven't trusted Harris's words since.
Do you have the details on Sutcliffe’s review? I don’t think I’ve seen that so would make an interesting read.
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:41 pm
by 12th
If you PM me an email address I'll scan it and send it over of you like. Might take a few days as I am on holiday at the moment (not as exciting as that might sound - I am decorating!)
Ditto anyone else who might want a copy. I also have their original full road test, along with pretty much everything else that appeared in Autocar at the time, including Harris's long term scribblings.
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:47 pm
by 12th
super7 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:39 pm
Fair enough, that is a bit of up and down. M cars a fantastic but I love how easy the RS is. Wet and dry it’s unreal, rear wheel M cars are beyond the capability of most drivers to get the max out of it. The RS is much more accessible I think.
Did anyone see this carwow drag race:
https://youtu.be/owCIkMbvMi8
M3 csl vs RS4 B7. Unfair but interesting final thoughts on it...
The carwow guy gets on my tits in a way I can barely describe - and in the piece he did on the RS2 and various iterations of the RS4 concluded that fast Audis should be turbocharged. This makes him a dimwit in my view.
He's used that RS4 in several other vids, and I don't think it's in complete good health. The standing quarter he got with it is a second off what Autocar got back in 2006, and that was two up and with a full fuel tank (as per all their tests). A post-MRC remap/clean etc B7 would be very interesting to see, though...
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:30 pm
by FrazerD
12th wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:47 pm
He's used that RS4 in several other vids, and I don't think it's in complete good health. The standing quarter he got with it is a second off what Autocar got back in 2006, and that was two up and with a full fuel tank (as per all their tests). A post-MRC remap/clean etc B7 would be very interesting to see, though...
Putting a remapped and carbon cleaned 12 year old car up against a standard 12 year old similar car would hardly be a fair test though would it.
Cheers
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:08 pm
by marc1
I think someone should send him a message asking if he wants a lightly tuned (relative to it being N/A) and even a SC car of an owner is up for it to put against them all. The B7 in the carwow video is Audi’s own car. It should be in good running order, but it could quite easily have unnoticed vac leaks etc.
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:08 pm
by marc1
12th wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 4:41 pm
If you PM me an email address I'll scan it and send it over of you like. Might take a few days as I am on holiday at the moment (not as exciting as that might sound - I am decorating!)
Ditto anyone else who might want a copy. I also have their original full road test, along with pretty much everything else that appeared in Autocar at the time, including Harris's long term scribblings.
That would be great, thanks for the offer.
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:13 pm
by Mark Park
super7 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:39 pm
Fair enough, that is a bit of up and down. M cars a fantastic but I love how easy the RS is. Wet and dry it’s unreal, rear wheel M cars are beyond the capability of most drivers to get the max out of it. The RS is much more accessible I think.
Did anyone see this carwow drag race:
https://youtu.be/owCIkMbvMi8
M3 csl vs RS4 B7. Unfair but interesting final thoughts on it...
He said the bmw was 200k and it was made in 2011 and he raced a 2006 Rs4 and lost a drag race when it had launch controll and not manual gearbox.He got wrecked by the old girl
Also i would love to know if that old girl was looked after, carbon clean and 100% working order not somthing they just got out of someones garage for the test.
Just another quick one is the avant quicker than the saloon, i only see him testing the avant version in a few vidoes if im not mistaken and also a few outher people on
YouTube. I would have thaught the saloon was lighter, i must check
Re: Pistonheads piece.
Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:44 pm
by marc1
Mark Park wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 10:13 pm
super7 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 12:39 pm
Fair enough, that is a bit of up and down. M cars a fantastic but I love how easy the RS is. Wet and dry it’s unreal, rear wheel M cars are beyond the capability of most drivers to get the max out of it. The RS is much more accessible I think.
Did anyone see this carwow drag race:
https://youtu.be/owCIkMbvMi8
M3 csl vs RS4 B7. Unfair but interesting final thoughts on it...
He said the bmw was 200k and it was made in 2011 and he raced a 2006 Rs4 and lost a drag race when it had launch controll and not manual gearbox.He got wrecked by the old girl
Also i would love to know if that old girl was looked after, carbon clean and 100% working order not somthing they just got out of someones garage for the test.
Just another quick one is the avant quicker than the saloon, i only see him testing the avant version in a few vidoes if im not mistaken and also a few outher people on
YouTube. I would have thaught the saloon was lighter, i must check
marc1 wrote: ↑Tue Feb 05, 2019 9:08 pm
I think someone should send him a message asking if he wants a lightly tuned (relative to it being N/A) and even a SC car of an owner is up for it to put against them all.
The B7 in the carwow video is Audi’s own car. It should be in good running order, but it could quite easily have unnoticed vac leaks etc.
^ In bold.
Also the 200k BMW is an E92 M3 GTS c.450bhp with twin clutch DCT gearbox. The M3 CSL (E46) is c.360bhp with an SMG2 gearbox (single clutch automated manual) and quite a light car.
Yes the B7 saloon is a bit lighter, not much in it though.