Fault Codes - Short to Ground

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Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by ameet » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:43 pm

Hi Guys,

Was at idle and noticed the EPC light come on, and then the car turned stalled. When I started it again it took a while before it started again. It seemed to stall every 2 minutes and would be a pain to start again.

Vagcom has pulled up the below codes.

7 Faults Found:

012312 - Valve for Exhaust Flap 1 (N321)
P3018 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 248 /min
Load: 69.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 38.0°C
Temperature: 24.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 10.160 V

001112 - Evap System Purge Control Valve (N80)
P0458 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

008201 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 1
P2009 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 248 /min
Load: 69.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 38.0°C
Temperature: 24.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 10.160 V

004199 - Intake Air Switch-Over Valve (N335)
P1067 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

005173 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299)
P1435 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 248 /min
Load: 69.0 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 38.0°C
Temperature: 24.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1000.0 mbar
Voltage: 11.176 V

008853 - Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve (N276)
P2295 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

005170 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve (N112)
P1432 - 004 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

I am thinking it could be the relays under the ECU, I have a spare relay so I have tried to swap around the two relays under the ECU but it doesn't seem to be making any difference. Could anything else be causing this or should I just order two new relays to see if it solves the issue?

Cheers
Ameet

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Re: Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by MikeFish » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:50 pm

At first it sounds like a low battery to me.
The first thing is check is the timing of the faults and I can see that all the faults happened at exaclty the same time (mileage) which further points towards the battery for me.
And battery level is low 11v.
Clear the faults, charge it and see what happens.
Not sure about the stalling bit though...

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Re: Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by MikeFish » Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:51 pm

Maybe the bulk of the faults above only appeared as a result of you trying to start the car and are unrelated to the actual stalling fault.

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Re: Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by ameet » Tue Apr 25, 2017 3:43 pm

MikeFish wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:50 pm
At first it sounds like a low battery to me.
The first thing is check is the timing of the faults and I can see that all the faults happened at exaclty the same time (mileage) which further points towards the battery for me.
And battery level is low 11v.
Clear the faults, charge it and see what happens.
Not sure about the stalling bit though...
So the battery level could be low because I have been clearing the codes, changing the relay and starting the car again. Will give it charge up this evening. The mileage will be the same because I cleared the codes, got the car started and then read the codes, so haven't been driving it.
MikeFish wrote:
Tue Apr 25, 2017 2:51 pm
Maybe the bulk of the faults above only appeared as a result of you trying to start the car and are unrelated to the actual stalling fault.
I seem to get the same codes regardless if it starts or not

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Re: Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by ameet » Wed Apr 26, 2017 11:39 am

So this morning, I recharged the battery over night, got two new ecu fuses and swapped them over as I thought that should hopefully resolve the problem, cleared all codes before starting the car. I checked every fuse too, couldn't see any blown.

Started the car, EPC light was on. Let it finish cold start and went for a spin around the block. As it started to warm-up I could start to hear it wasn't running right, almost like it was misfiring. I then read the car for the codes, It came up with the 10 listed below.

10 Faults Found:

012312 - Valve for Exhaust Flap 1 (N321)
P3018 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 189 /min
Load: 84.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 6.0°C
Temperature: 12.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 10.414 V

001112 - Evap System Purge Control Valve (N80)
P0458 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 189 /min
Load: 84.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 6.0°C
Temperature: 12.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 10.414 V

008201 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 1
P2009 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

004199 - Intake Air Switch-Over Valve (N335)
P1067 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 189 /min
Load: 84.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 6.0°C
Temperature: 12.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 10.414 V

005173 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299)
P1435 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

005494 - Right Engine Mount Solenoid Valve (N145)
P1576 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 189 /min
Load: 84.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 6.0°C
Temperature: 12.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 10.414 V

005170 - Secondary Air Injection Solenoid Valve (N112)
P1432 - 004 - Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

000135 - Fuel Rail/System Pressure
P0087 - 002 - Too Low - Intermittent
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1265 /min
Load: 33.7 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 6.0°C
Temperature: 10.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.843 V

000048 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S1: Heating Circuit
P0030 - 004 - Malfunction / Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 00100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 3
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151428 km
Time Indication: 0

000054 - Oxygen (Lambda) Sensor B1 S2: Heating Circuit
P0036 - 004 - Malfunction / Open Circuit
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100100
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 1733 /min
Load: 14.5 %
Speed: 23.0 km/h
Temperature: 56.0°C
Temperature: 12.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.843 V


As the car was running I cleared these codes to see what would return while it was running. The four below appeared straight away.

4 Faults Found:
001112 - Evap System Purge Control Valve (N80)
P0458 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 776 /min
Load: 20.4 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 63.0°C
Temperature: 15.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

008201 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 1
P2009 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 776 /min
Load: 20.4 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 63.0°C
Temperature: 15.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

004199 - Intake Air Switch-Over Valve (N335)
P1067 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

005173 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299)
P1435 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 776 /min
Load: 20.4 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 63.0°C
Temperature: 15.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.589 V


Again cleared all codes and re-read... 5 codes appeared again.

5 Faults Found:
001112 - Evap System Purge Control Valve (N80)
P0458 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 733 /min
Load: 20.4 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 66.0°C
Temperature: 16.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

008201 - Intake Manifold Flap; Bank 1
P2009 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

004199 - Intake Air Switch-Over Valve (N335)
P1067 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 733 /min
Load: 20.4 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 66.0°C
Temperature: 16.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.970 V

005173 - Secondary Air Pump Relay (J299)
P1435 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

008853 - Fuel Pressure Regulator Valve (N276)
P2295 - 002 - Short to Ground
Freeze Frame:
Fault Status: 01100010
Fault Priority: 0
Fault Frequency: 1
Reset counter: 255
Mileage: 151429 km
Time Indication: 0

Freeze Frame:
RPM: 797 /min
Load: 20.8 %
Speed: 0.0 km/h
Temperature: 66.0°C
Temperature: 16.0°C
Absolute Pres.: 1010.0 mbar
Voltage: 13.843 V

Any suggestions?

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Re: Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by ameet » Sun Apr 30, 2017 10:37 pm

Managed to find the issue, one of the fuses under the ECU had blown, swapped it over and all good, all codes gone :jump_clap:

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Re: Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by iainrs6 » Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:49 pm

Would you believe, mine has started to do exactly the same... Where are the fuses under the ECU?

Thanks

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Re: Fault Codes - Short to Ground

Post by maars » Fri Jul 10, 2020 11:09 pm

Interesting article here:
https://www.audizine.com/forum/showthre ... ff-(B7-S4)
...where the guy had a similar issue and ended up changing the Fuel Pump Relay.
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