Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

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Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by neil1003 » Tue Jun 04, 2013 9:48 pm

£19900 http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/ ... ?logcode=p

Would save me a (long) potential trip if you tell me it's not great. Thanks.

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by Recy_G » Tue Jun 04, 2013 10:25 pm

I was there just over a week ago, they had three in, black, Avus and silver. One of the latter two had horrendous wear on the drivers seat. I'll look at their website and see if I can remember which one.

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by neil1003 » Wed Jun 05, 2013 8:16 pm

The Avus one is up for a LOT more £, so it shouldn't be that one, but who knows!

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by Oak » Wed Jun 05, 2013 9:21 pm

I did drop in there last weekend just to see if they had anything interesting, think they had a sprint blue and the silver one on the front line by the showroom and another rather tired looking one tucked away amongst the 2.0tdi's. Looked OK as I recall, wish I had looked a bit closer now. The Silver one would be nicer with optics.

I recall being quite taken aback by the Sticker price compared to what they are offering for trade ins at the moment.

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by adsgreen » Thu Jun 06, 2013 7:16 am

I may get bored later and have a look. Was planning a trip to hedge end anyway.
Anything in particular want to look at/for?

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by neil1003 » Thu Jun 06, 2013 1:24 pm

Maybe too late, but if it's a general walk around then just general condition of the paintwork (some I've seen have been poor), state of wheels (tends to reflect the general care taken by the onwer, so reflects potentially mechanical items maintenance as well), does the inside look tired etc.

If you get a more detailed look, what has it had done recently (disks/pads, DRC, clutch, etc), ie. costly stuff! I could just phone them up for this sort of stuff, so don't worry, it was more a general question that if it just looked a dog just by walking past it, then I won't even bother ringing, yet alone going to see it! Thanks.

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by adsgreen » Fri Jun 07, 2013 2:20 pm

Okey dokey :)

Got bored whilst waiting for phone to be fixed so had a look at Portsmouth audi.
Firstly, disclaimers - this is just my opinion and my not be all the facts. I spent about 30-45 minutes there and never started or drove the cars. Purely a close look at the obvious.
With that out of the way...

They have 3 there at the moment
£19,900 06 *silver* Avant.
Note - just to be double sure, this is nothing like Daytona grey.
Summary - it's had a hard 80k miles.
Bumper gap is more than I would like. Seen worse but it's not "tight".
The drivers bolster is shot to hell. I've not seen one quite this bad. No amount of product will reverse it as it's cracked and worn through the outer coating (flaking). It would need to be recovered to be put back together.
It's got a few stone chips (which you'd expect at 80k) however they have been attacked by a bad diy mismatched stone chip repair kit. Honestly, the ones that haven't been "fixed" look better. at 80k miles you expect some wear n tear but the repairs are bad. It's not one or two either - there's about 3-5 on the N/S wing alone. Blob after blob of paint that's doesn't look the right shade.
N/S front door has a couple scratches about 1/2" long. Deep enough to be a professional repair (no t-cutting).
N/S front door sill has a massive scratch - about 4" long.
It has the manual blinds, heated seats, nav and sunroof which are pros.
No phone kit, mount (cradle or in the armrest) and no Bluetooth.
Look like brand new continental tyres.
Piano black interior (looks odd to me)
FBSW and buckets - Sport button on the steering wheel rubbed almost clean. other buttons showing wear too.
Brakes showing wear with a lip forming.
All wheels refurbished.
No signs of DRC failure but always worth a decent look.
Taxed until July.
Full Audi service history.

Finally - I can't comment conclusively and this is purely an educated guess as it has chucked it down this morning but this was the only car showing fluid in the N/S front passenger aux rad duct. I couldn't tell if it was water or coolant (didn't want to pull the vent cover off with salesman behind me) but the rads do look consistent with the age and mileage of the car. I would strongly advise this being checked on any test drive.

Overall - it's had a hard life and it shows it. £20k "feels" a lot of cash but as with most things always room for movement.

£27k 2007 Daytona Avant
Much better all round (reflected in the price though!)
50k miles
Damage around the drivers side washer cover - looks like it may have been stuck and attacked with a screwdriver. trivial to sort just a bit annoying.
Bolster wear is consistent with age - creases and some wear (it's a 6 year old well used car after all) but no worse than mine. Some decent leather care products will sort it out I would think.
Buckets and MFSW
Carbon interior.
What look like almost new Ultratrac Sesstansa - plenty of life left.
refurb'd wheels.
brakes look relatively ok - no lip yet formed.
No auto wipers or lights
Paintwork in great condition considering age.
Bumper gap is perfect.
Aux rads look clear.
Drc no signs of leak.
Weird hose hanging loose in the N/S front aux rad vent. If I had to guess it *looks* like the vac line to the rear exhaust. I couldn't quite tell but it's that kind of size. I checked the other cars and mine and none of them had this visible. I'm sure it's a trivial fix but worth checking out esp at this price bracket.

Summary - by far the best car there but the most expensive. It'd be the one I would probably go for but this price is at the top end and a little premium.

£24k Sepang Blue Saloon. 07 55k miles.
BTW - I've never seen this colour in the metal and it looks stunning. Love it (even if you lose the stealth aspect of the rs4 ;-))
Paintwork is reasonable - no obvious problems. Small dent under the drivers wing mirror but that's really pedantic.
Bumper gap is frankly laughable... I swear I could get my entire hand through the gap.
FBSW reasonable condition
Comfort seats in good condition.
No auto wipers/lights
Nav
Worn Pirellis - I'm guessing between 3-4mm. Noticeably more wear than the other two cars there.
Brakes looking like they are more work than the 27k car but not as bad as the 19k car.
Piano black interior
No sign of DRC leak.

Overall - nice car. I would be my choice if it wasn't for the lack of bucket seats and the auto wipers.
If they put new tyres on then maybe just maybe...

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by edge » Fri Jun 07, 2013 3:36 pm

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by adsgreen » Fri Jun 07, 2013 5:29 pm

The only other (slightly random) point... Toyburu Gt-86/BR-Z people... Yes you have a car that is a joy to drive and a seriously fun experience. But it's not fast. comically so.
Don't go baiting above you're weight and then get p***ed off when it doesn't go to plan.

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by Ian_C » Fri Jun 07, 2013 6:57 pm

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by John Johnson » Fri Jun 07, 2013 7:01 pm

I've got the service breakdown of the silver one , its had one rear shocker in 2009 and as mentioned stones chips done by the tea lady .... Alloys been refurbed too
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B7 avant in Daytona with ceramics and a few other goodies and lowwwww miles :-)
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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by F@tBoyF@t » Fri Jun 07, 2013 8:53 pm

John Johnson wrote:I've got the service breakdown of the silver one , its had one rear shocker in 2009 and as mentioned stones chips done by the tea lady .... Alloys been refurbed too
I'd advise that there are much better cars, than this silver one, out there for this kind of money, John.

The Y7W Silver metallic cars are to be honest, the least desirable colours with a view to resale.

Best colours are Daytona Grey/Sprint Blue/Mugello Blue or Avus Silver (Y7J) the latter being probably the easiest to keep clean, on a day-to-day basis.

Iirc the DRC shock absorbers should be changed in pairs diagonally across the car due to the hydraulic installation, so I'd be wary of a car which had one shock absorber changed.
It seems counterintuitive to not change both shockers on the same axle at the same time.
When I had my DRC system replaced, they changed all four shock absorbers.

Top marks to Adsgreen for those appraisals. 11/10 - probably saving you a disappointing journey - top, top forum member. :beerchug:

To me, the only benefit of buying these cars now from Audi main dealers is the warranty, and subject to an inspection you can buy this directly from Mondial themselves (0845 6419798) (about £1250 pa)
I never bothered so I have a kitty of £2500 for repairs currently, or a tasty exhaust?

Although, I think that it's fair to say that these cars are extremely reliable, don't go into this thinking that you'll get better than 21mpg on average.
I've seen 26mpg on a long motorway run to Scotland and back at sensible motorway speeds
Tyre change needed every 10-12k miles in normal usage.
£400-500 for an Audi service.
The driver's side bolster always takes a hammering on these cars.

Plenty of top notch specialists out there - site sponsors Revolution plus MRC (apologies if I've missed anyone)

I don't think that you can beat a forum car for value for money.

Have a look in the classifieds section.

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by John Johnson » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:01 pm

Wise words I have to agree with ... My face colour is Daytona followed by sprint tbh
That should be fave , not face .... Fecking half whit spellcheck on this sh I te phone
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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by bam_bam » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:07 pm

adsgreen wrote:The only other (slightly random) point... Toyburu Gt-86/BR-Z people... Yes you have a car that is a joy to drive and a seriously fun experience. But it's not fast. comically so.
Don't go baiting above you're weight and then get p***ed off when it doesn't go to plan.
Where the fcuk did that come from? Divulge, NEOW!

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Re: Anyone looked at the Avant at Portsmouth Audi?

Post by F@tBoyF@t » Fri Jun 07, 2013 9:29 pm

bam_bam wrote:
adsgreen wrote:The only other (slightly random) point... Toyburu Gt-86/BR-Z people... Yes you have a car that is a joy to drive and a seriously fun experience. But it's not fast. comically so.
Don't go baiting above you're weight and then get p***ed off when it doesn't go to plan.
Where the fcuk did that come from? Divulge, NEOW!

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Aaargh - an Antipodean correcting an Englishman's spelling ...?

Strewth....

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