Don't Get Upset! The RS4 B7 Is Coming To America! Face It!

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Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by Mike_K » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:27 am

simple1 wrote:One point whch may be be relevant or not.........why would the Americans need a car capable of doing 155 mph when the maximum is 55??????? :assflash:
I think this is a common misconception based on old info; I remember in the 80's believing that the US had a blanket limit of 55 (and in some places it did), and was suprised on my first US visit to find roads with 65 and (shock :shock: ) 75 mph. I think I read a couple of years ago that about 3 US states were even planning to completely remove the maximum limit on some types of roads (a la Germany).

Now that's more like it :twisted:

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Post by JohnW » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:50 am

Fair points Kurt.

I don't think anyone (including myself) has really realised just how offensive you guys seem to find some of our comments with regard to being designed for the US market. I'm sure they aren't meant in that manner, and these are only opinions.

I also don't think anyone is trying to cast blame. After all it is a design choice and what the designer had in mind may be influenced by certain markets, or other manufacturers' products, but its not a blame thing.

Its also highly likely that those comparing to an S4 will have a different viewpoint ot those comparing with a B5 RS4, and so be looking for different things from the car. As you have said, any RS4 reaching the US is a bonus and will sell. I'm sure they will all sell in Europe too.

Clearly we can't answer why the US is getting the cars after europe as this is a marketing decision. This is unusual though (from my experience), as most other makes of cars seem to arrive in the US ahead of England due to the rhd models getting bumped down the build priority until the lhd initial demand has dropped a bit.

I think we've pretty much done this topic to death now. :wink: :kissmyrings:
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RE: Re: Don

Post by johneroberts » Mon Mar 14, 2005 2:37 pm

I think we've pretty much done this topic to death now.
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Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by Scotty » Mon Mar 14, 2005 10:47 pm

simple1 wrote:One point whch may be be relevant or not.........why would the Americans need a car capable of doing 155 mph when the maximum is 55??????? :assflash:
This comment is baiting you guys. No one on a car enthusiasts site would ever say such a thing seriously.

The do say that sarcsasm doesn't travel well over the pond. :wink:
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Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by Alan » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:25 am

gord wrote:I think Alan's point, and one which we on this side of the Atlantic concur with, is that we are disappointed that the replacement for a classic vehicle which was deemed to be up there with the best in terms of driving dynamics, performance, looks, etc etc, has been sacrificed on the altar of the marketing department's latest customer clinics on the other side of the Atlantic. The demands (and needs) of the US market and its customers are very different to those of, say, the UK. That doesn't make THEM wrong, it just leaves US feeling somewhat alientaed and let down by a take-it-or-leave-it attitude from Audi for a replacement which many of us will simply not buy. And they should be careful - there's a lot of us - the UK was a very important market for the 4 and the 6 for Audi. Especially when, as you say Kujo, the competition is hotting up with cars like the M4, the M5 (maybe as an estate too!) and various Mercedes Benzes. Brand loyalty is only as strong as your next product...!
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Erm yes, thank you, as you say I was merely pointing out the fact that I am more than a little p*ssed off at yet another car manufacturer *ruining* a great european formula so as to make more money by selling more cars in the USA.
Fine, sell the car there, but make it a "USA version", with all the bells and whistles and lardy-arsed suspension setups ets etc demanded by that particular market.
However, as is also very well pointed out earlier, a lot of these changes are also to comply with worldwide changing emission regulations (well outside the USA anyway) :roll:
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RE: Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by gord » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:28 am

True alan
But dont know about you but i'm bored with this thread now.
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Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by Alan » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:29 am

DaveP wrote:Kurt, the point I am trying to make is that some of the US guys seem to think people are having a go at them...that isn't the case...the posts that are complaining about the car are just that! - posts complaining about the car!...not you or anyone else personally in the States.

Expectations here in Europe/UK have been very very high...I very much doubt Audi could have produced something that would have satisfied everyone here. I believe it will be a better car than a standard B5 RS4. I look forward to seeing one in the flesh...and maybe even driving one...but I don't currently think it's special enough to replace my current RS4, maybe I'll be proved wrong.
Yes, bang on >.<

No-one here including me is "blaming Americans" for gawds sake :roll:

We're "blaming Audi" for aiming the car at *your* market.

You've never had the previous cars, so wouldn't know *why* we were complaining :shock:
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Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by Alan » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:33 am

kujo wrote:To All,

Maybe I'll see some of you at the Circuit de Catalunya in August.

Kurt
Hey Kurt...I'm in Barcelona w/Audi then too!

Buy you a beer?

As long as you reciprocate lol :D
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by Alan » Tue Mar 15, 2005 12:36 am

gord wrote:True alan
But dont know about you but i'm bored with this thread now.
Next!
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Gawd yes sorry was replying in order of reading :?
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by AUDI|RS4 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 1:04 am

HAHA, This thread just doesnt stop! I am so smart.
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Post by feelou » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:07 am

Back into your box, AUDI|RS4

Somebody do something about this thread

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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by simple1 » Tue Mar 15, 2005 2:08 am

Now there is a comment that is open for debate :biggrin3:
Can we have a poll on that one maybe :bigblink:

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Re: RE: Re: Don

Post by kujo » Tue Mar 15, 2005 6:20 am

Alan wrote:
kujo wrote:To All,

Maybe I'll see some of you at the Circuit de Catalunya in August.

Kurt
Hey Kurt...I'm in Barcelona w/Audi then too!

Buy you a beer?

As long as you reciprocate lol :D
Of course I'll reciprocate, two fold.
Really looking forward to the trip and opportunity to drive this track.
I heard there isn't good beer there though ?
Any thruth to that ?

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