Terraclean for rs4?

[sonny]

Are you offering a full compensation to the volunteer if anything was to happen to the engine or is it at their "own risk"?

If its a no then i would advise not to, unless you have a spare £14k laying around for a new engine.

[PerformanceTuningUK]

Are you offering a full compensation to the volunteer if anything was to happen to the engine or is it at their "own risk"?

If its a no then i would advise not to, unless you have a spare £14k laying around for a new engine.

I have been offering this service/product since February 2012, and have performed it on a lot of vehicles.

We have not had any issues or problems with the Terraclean Service at all because it is designed to restore not hinder parts.

If you have a car that already has issues then it would be better to correct any underlying problems first.

In terms of compensation, I tend not to bet unless its a sure thing. So in this case I am more than happy to say it will not cause any problems. On the flip side of your question though, would you be prepared to pay for the rolling road tests, borescope tests, and Terraclean service when it proves to be as good as it is?

Come over and visit us and you will see that we have not gotten to where we are by taking chances, but by offering a sound service.

I am more than happy to answer any questions you may have.

Kind regards

Jags
Performance Tuning UK Ltd
www.performancetuninguk.com
01753 303 590

[barryrs]

I wasnt aware that there was an issue with Terraclean damaging engines; just that the claims seem to be unsupported with photographic evidence which is the most obvious marketing tool.

Hi Guys

I am a Terraclean operator based in Slough.

I am arranging to have an RS4 in for a day or two to carry out comprehensive tests to prove that the product does work.

If anyone on the forum wants to have their car done to prove that this test is unbiased and independent, please contact us.

Thanks

Jags
Performance Tuning UK Ltd
http://www.performancetuninguk.com
01753303590

Good on you; this would finally put the debate to bed.

[Gavla]

Hi Jags,

First off thanks for posting. Have you done a RS4 B7 FSI before? What were the results?

The comprehensive tests you mention above IMO will need to include a before/after boroscope image(s) on the intakes and valves. (This is the area in question and it is unclear if this product actually even reaches this area)

I think that you really need to provide this as part of your comprehensive tests as your normal metrics won't suffice.

Also Is there a specific direct injection machine?

Cheers,
Gavla

[PerformanceTuningUK]

Hi Jags,

First off thanks for posting. Have you done a RS4 B7 FSI before? What were the results?

The comprehensive tests you mention above IMO will need to include a before/after boroscope image(s) on the intakes, ports and valves. (This is the area in question and it is unclear if this product actually even reaches this area)

I think that you really need to provide this as part of your comprehensive tests as your normal metrics won't suffice.

Also Is there a specific direct injection machine?

Cheers,
Gavla

We have not done any RS4's ourselves as of yet, hence the reason for getting one in for benchmark and case study.

We intend on taking before and after borescope images, as well as before and after dyno readings.

We are just waiting for a couple of motor dealers that we work with to get one in so that we can have the car for a day or two to carry out the study.

We do not have a specific machine for just the direct injection vehicles, however the Terraclean machines will connect onto any vehicle as a replacement fuel supply. The only thing that varies is the fuel pressure which we can adjust from the Terraclean machine.

If anyone is local to us, then they are more than welcome to pop in and we can show them a Terraclean service in action on a different vehicle just for peace of mind.

Kind regards

Jags
Performance Tuning UK Ltd
www.performancetuninguk.com
01753 303 590

[sonny]

Jags I was not questioning the ability of your garage or service. I was questioning the process of the clean and the ability to remove the carbon effectively without parts of the carbon deposits getting into the cylinder housing.

There a has been reports in the past of owners engines getting damaged by carbon chunks falling into the cylinders and causing piston wear resulting in compression loss and hotspots forming on the cylinder walls.

As long as the process is fail proof then I cant see the process damaging an engine, however i would not like to be the the one to take the chance unless there was some form of peace of mind.

[redrsr]

however the Terraclean machines will connect onto any vehicle as a replacement fuel supply. The only thing that varies is the fuel pressure which we can adjust from the Terraclean machine.

Jags
Performance Tuning UK Ltd
http://www.performancetuninguk.com
01753 303 590

Jags

Won't the cleaning agent need to be introduced to the manifold, not fuel system?

[PerformanceTuningUK]

however the Terraclean machines will connect onto any vehicle as a replacement fuel supply. The only thing that varies is the fuel pressure which we can adjust from the Terraclean machine.

Jags
Performance Tuning UK Ltd
http://www.performancetuninguk.com
01753 303 590

Jags

Won't the cleaning agent need to be introduced to the manifold, not fuel system?

The service would allow the chemicals to recirculate around the engine, and also if the egr valve is working correctly then it would recirculate in the manifold too.

[PerformanceTuningUK]

Jags I was not questioning the ability of your garage or service. I was questioning the process of the clean and the ability to remove the carbon effectively without parts of the carbon deposits getting into the cylinder housing.

There a has been reports in the past of owners engines getting damaged by carbon chunks falling into the cylinders and causing piston wear resulting in compression loss and hotspots forming on the cylinder walls.

As long as the process is fail proof then I cant see the process damaging an engine, however i would not like to be the the one to take the chance unless there was some form of peace of mind.

I can see your concern, but please believe me when we say that we would not perform the service if we had any doubts at all.

For example, we have point blank declined to perform the service on any Mazda RX8 vehicles due to the wankle engine having bad problems with carbon build up, which it also relies on to a certain extent for the compression.

Kind regards

Jags

[barryrs]

My concern with that method is that nowhere enough of the chemicals will reach the effected areas to make any real difference?

Hence Terraclean developing this http://www.terraclean.net/product.php?id=2

[Dal]

My concern with that method is that nowhere enough of the chemicals will reach the effected areas to make any real difference?

Hence Terraclean developing this http://www.terraclean.net/product.php?id=2

That's exactly what is needed to see if it going to work or not...Until i see before and after pictures of the valves and flaps i would still rather just get the manifold stripped off and cleaned the normal way.

However if it does work brilliant, no more messing around stripping cleaning and rebuilding, it would become part of my service schedule and i am sure many others on here..

[PerformanceTuningUK]

My concern with that method is that nowhere enough of the chemicals will reach the effected areas to make any real difference?

Hence Terraclean developing this http://www.terraclean.net/product.php?id=2

This product hasn't yet been launched for the EU market.

It is still in development, and should be with us next year.

[TonyHayers]

The service would allow the chemicals to recirculate around the engine, and also if the egr valve is working correctly then it would recirculate in the manifold too.

There is no EGR valve. It's "internal EGR" from valve overlap.

Whilst I'm happy to believe the terraclean "fuel" or cleaning agent will make contact with the carbon buildup found on the intake ports - I cannot believe that one hour (or whatever it is) of running will make any noticeable difference to the kind of deposits we see on 50K plus cars. I can see how it might work as a preventative step every 5k miles or so once a full manual carbon clean has been done.

Feel free to prove me wrong

[grizz]

This will not work on a b7 rs4 as it's direct fuel injection ..

After cleaning B7 inlets there is NO was i would want that much carbon falling in the cylinder's .

[sonny]

This will not work on a b7 rs4 as it's direct fuel injection ..

After cleaning B7 inlets there is NO was i would want that much carbon falling in the cylinder's .

My thoughts exactly.