DRC question

[rs4v8]

imagine he has to replace the DRC again just before the 20 months are up, does he have any more warranty or not?

Correct!!

They only replaced one shock today - despite me asking why.... This is new Audi policy apparently.

I feel another week without my car coming on when the final old version shock goes - and it will.........

[rs4v8]

or offer to pay for KW's .

Aye good luck with that Sims!!!!!

[Sims]

or offer to pay for KW's .

Aye good luck with that Sims!!!!!

Luck should have nothing to with this engineering issue.

Do you agree that Audi (VdT) should be able to permanently fix the dampers?

If they say they cannot, then an alternative should be offered to keep the faithful happy and on the road. No?

[P_G]

No, I think just the fronts are fine.

Until the rears die
Mine died again ast week. Fronts died last year, rears last week. Both times it took two days to fix. IMHO Audi should have replaced all four shocks the first time , particularly when there is a known problem.
Fed up with it now, a car with 21k miles should not drop its oily guts in such a big way, never mind twice. Nearly impossible to defend when they are massively more unreliable (over and above the DRC) than our clio 197 which has never missed a beat in three (thrashed, abused and uncared for!) years.

Have a test drive of an S4 tomorrow when I go to collect mine, if it's even half decent I'll be tempted to get rid.

I'm sorry to hear what has happened but to tar all RS4's is not right. You may have done 21k miles and had these problems but some have not. Would you replace something that you sold when the original item was in tact? And not it is not always the case that if one set were replaced and the other not the ones that weren't will expire. Mine haven't as have plenty others.

And comparing it to Clio's isn't great. That car may have been ok for you but I have friends who have traded in their 182's and 197's for failed bearings, dodgy bonnet catches, perishable radiators or interior trim falling off of its own accord.

Suffice to say all manufacturers will produce Friday afternoon cars and that is unfortunate. If you feel the RS4 is not for you fair enough.

[Plodwyn]

Got to agree with rs4v8 mines only done 8k and recently had 2 fronts replaced, but had been leaking long before that. its a 2006 model and had from new, my 182 is 6 years old and its never put a foot wrong and its been thrapped and unloved!!

[rs4v8]

but some have not.

It seems quite a few have tho Please refer to this http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... hlight=drc

Would you replace something that you sold when the original item was in tact?

Yes, I definately would if I was expecting the customer to stay with my supposedly premium brand next time. Furthermore I would have learned from past experience of the same system fitted to older models and made sure I got it right this time or changed it for something else. Feel free to ask 4.2 RS6 owners about DRC.

Mine haven't as have plenty others.

I very much hope your luck stays with you

And comparing it to Clio's isn't great

Really? A car that cost 15k compared to my 52k Audi, a car which is driven to its absolute limit far more often than my RS4 and which is considerably less looked after (it belongs to the wife!) yet it hasn't been to the dealership once other than for two routine services in the three years we've had it, the RS4 has been in eight times now for various faults, admittedly all resolved other than the DRC. Furthermore the clio has done best part of 30k now. I think it is very fair for me to make the comparison, particularly based on my own personal experience, not 'my mates' or some boys on a forum.

Clearly you are a big Audi fan, fair play to you. I drove a new S4 today and was very, very impressed by it. It will be one of the cars I'll be considering over the next few months as a replacement for the RS4.

[rs4v8]

Got to agree with rs4v8 mines only done 8k and recently had 2 fronts replaced, but had been leaking long before that. its a 2006 model and had from new, my 182 is 6 years old and its never put a foot wrong and its been thrapped and unloved!!

Thrapped and unloved indeed Is there any other way?!

[Sims]

RS4V8

DRC is a serious issue

Some have not been affected, and are of course rightly entitled to their view therefore. Providence indeed, for Audi acknowledge the issue.

Many have been, and far too many. Some have reported on here, I suspect most have not.

If you really want to know what percentage are affected, call a few Audi Dealers. Warranty Direct (another live thread) mentioned nearly half of their claims are DRC related.

[rs4v8]

RS4V8

DRC is a serious issue

It's flippin' serious to me!!! Very fortunate that it has and is being covered by warranty of one kind or another.

[rs4v8]

or offer to pay for KW's .

Aye good luck with that Sims!!!!!

Luck should have nothing to with this engineering issue.

Do you agree that Audi (VdT) should be able to permanently fix the dampers?

If they say they cannot, then an alternative should be offered to keep the faithful happy and on the road. No?

I do agree that they should fix them but they won't as you are forgetting that accountants rule the world I was thinking the other day when I was clonking along to the dealers that It'd be interesting if someone was to have an accident where the cause of the accident was wholy or even partly caused by the car being driven with faulty DRC system. I suspect Audi would be falling over themselves to offer a KW style solution.

[Sims]

.. I was thinking the other day when I was clonking along to the dealers that It'd be interesting if someone was to have an accident where the cause of the accident was wholy or even partly caused by the car being driven with faulty DRC system. I suspect Audi would be falling over themselves to offer a KW style solution.

I understand the sentiment, but let's all hope there are no accidents.

I do know Audi monitor this forum, so will be aware of the sentiment expressed.

[rs4v8]

but let's all hope there are no accidents.

Totally

[P_G]

but some have not.

It seems quite a few have tho Please refer to this http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... hlight=drc

Another one for selective quoting. I don't need to read that thread, I contributed to it. However how many names on there comparedr to the 3500 units siold in the UK or the toital production of RS4's worklwide since RS246 is an international forum. It is not and has been said before not representative and I was specifically referring to having two replaced and then the other two needing replaced later. Look on the list and see that the proportion of those are even less.

Would you replace something that you sold when the original item was in tact?

Yes, I definately would if I was expecting the customer to stay with my supposedly premium brand next time. Furthermore I would have learned from past experience of the same system fitted to older models and made sure I got it right this time or changed it for something else. Feel free to ask 4.2 RS6 owners about DRC.

But it was changed, RS4's had Gen2 DRC, not Gen1 that was on the C5 RS6. And what you are saying is commercial suicide, replacing a complete useable item with no sins of damage for exactly the same item because someone asks you to?

Mine haven't as have plenty others.

I very much hope your luck stays with you

It's not luck, don't believe it it.

And comparing it to Clio's isn't great

Really? A car that cost 15k compared to my 52k Audi, a car which is driven to its absolute limit far more often than my RS4 and which is considerably less looked after (it belongs to the wife!) yet it hasn't been to the dealership once other than for two routine services in the three years we've had it, the RS4 has been in eight times now for various faults, admittedly all resolved other than the DRC. Furthermore the clio has done best part of 30k now. I think it is very fair for me to make the comparison, particularly based on my own personal experience, not 'my mates' or some boys on a forum.

Funny because of the irony. You criticise me for making reference to what is said by friends and forum users (although I didn't refer to forum users in my statement) yet refer to information on a forum to validate your DRC argument?

Clearly you are a big Audi fan, fair play to you. I drove a new S4 today and was very, very impressed by it. It will be one of the cars I'll be considering over the next few months as a replacement for the RS4.

If I am an Audi 'fan' it is because I have driven and owned a large cross section of marques and the Audi's I have had have consistently proved to be more reliable than those I have driven from the other manufacturers. You may have done 30k miles in your £15k Clio against your 21k miles in your £52k Audi, yet I have done 52k miles since buying my RS4 that had 16k miles on it when I bought it and DRC has failed once and has not reoccured in the new or OEM rear shocks in 32k miles since the fronts were replaced.

Like I say you have my sympathies for your car and some have more than their fair share of troubles but my original comment stands which is that not all RS4's are the same. And as for Sims comment how have Warranty Direct had 50% of their RS4's claims based on DRC when it is covered for 5 years or 70,000 miles? I would be surprised if 50% of the RS4's they cover are either 5 years old (not possible yet) or have over 70k miles on them?

Stoking the fire?

[Sims]

.. And as for Sims comment how have Warranty Direct had 50% of their RS4's claims based on DRC when it is covered for 5 years or 70,000 miles? I would be surprised if 50% of the RS4's they cover are either 5 years old (not possible yet) or have over 70k miles on them?

Stoking the fire?

P_G - call WD and they will tell you that, as they have told me & others on this forum who have faithfully passed on the information.

It seems to me WD have picked up the DRC tab, rather than pass it on to Audi.

I am not stoking any fire, it was burning well before I came and will be well after most of us have left this forum. It is an engineering issue, do not make it a personal one yet again, please.

[rs4v8]

Stoking the fire?

Not at all my friend. I'm pissed off with a car that keeps f*^king breaking down. Stoking the fire would be criticising someone's comparison, unfairly IMHO, when they feel they have a valid complaint / observation to make.

My point about changing the shocks out. I meant changing all four at the first signs of failure for the new, revised ones. This would, presumably have meant less visits to the dealership for my car. As it turns out I now have three of the revised ones and fully expect the last old style one to go soon. I would not expect Audi to change every RS4's shocks in a recall as you are right it would indeed be commercially difficult. They'll lose thousands if I and others walk away from Audi tho so where is the balance?

Sorry if my observations / frustrations have irked you, they seem to have and that certainly wasn't my intention and I certainly am not wanting to get in a remote control slagging match as quite honestly I can't be arsed.

Do I read your post correctly that you've had DRC problems?