Initial maintenance

[TDiAvant]

I'm sure it will, but thanks to Das I'll do me own oil & filter change

[binder]

I am still happy that with modern synthetic oils, better machine finishing and improved oil filters that early changes unnecessary. I remember reading LJK Setright 10 or 15 years ago who was perfectly happy running his Bristol for 20,000 miles with Mobil 1 which at that time was the first super synthetic.

[audijohn]

I think it's a personal thing, I would change the Oil & Filter early if I were to keep this one, I have not made my mind up yet. I think 5K would be a good mileage to change it, as everything should have settled by then.

[Andyuk911]

I have change my oil at 2220 miles and again tomorrow

I cannot see the point. Can you tell me what are the benefits of doing this? Surely it doesn't need to be done that often, or do you like collecting dealer stamps in your service history book?

Hi Jezzer,

well Scott told me about the oil contamination from petrol due to the FSI.

Since it is my own car, I prefer to change it ... I also had the Air Filter(£13) changed. Remember, this car sucks in a lot of air.

I don't care about the cost .. just performance

Andy

[Jezzer]

Fair point Andy.

[Lancia]

I guess the question remains is how do Audi check/Run-in these engines before installing the engine.
Do they go to the point where the engine oil ischecked for any remaining swarf etc, correct compression.
If we knew that then you may be changing the oil for no reason or it may be perfectly justified.

Does anyone know what testing and how rigourous it is before the vehicle leaves the factory??


I had a bit of a swarf problem with a bike once so Id go with the extra oil change but then again is Audi better and more rigorous with their quality control???

[Andyuk911]

Scott has done a lot of testing of the oil, he is on Audi World, once you read it you will be changing yours.

[t_urbo]

Until someone runs two engines, one with the 18,000 mile service interval and one with consistant shorter oil changes Assume every 6,000 miles over a period of at least 50,000 miles under the same conditions then have the engines stripped and checked for wear it's all just a load of waffle.
I'm of the assumption that Audi have carried out these sorts of tests and more and have come to the conclusion that oil changes of up to 18,000 miles are perfectly ok. If engines were wearing out at the rate that some on here believe than there's going to be alot of f**ked engines in the near future, mine included.


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[Andyuk911]

I have no doubt you can operate the engine as Audi say ... but an engine with fresh oil lubricating it will always be better .... not on the smae line exactly, but I am sure the F1 guys change the oil.

As Scott as find out by oil analysis, petrol gets into the oil

[t_urbo]

I have no doubt you can operate the engine as Audi say ... but an engine with fresh oil lubricating it will always be better .... not on the smae line exactly, but I am sure the F1 guys change the oil.

As Scott as find out by oil analysis, petrol gets into the oil

Wow, now were comparing an RS4 engine with a F1 engine.
Petrol contaminates the oil in all engines, whats new there?
An engine with fresh oil in it will be better in what way?


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[audijohn]

Petrol will be burned off (evaporated)in engine oil only up to temp, it's once constant cold start/short runs that will cause damage.

[Love_iTT]

I think there are two or three points here.

1) Leave the oil alone for the full service period i.e. 19000 mls
2) Change the oil after the first 1000 mls or so to get rid of any contaminants, swarf etc on a new engine.
3) Change the oil to your choice, say every 5-6000 mls.

Personally, I'm with the number 2 school of thought. I will probably change the oil at about 1200 mls just to be on the safe side, just to get rid of any 'bits' that may be lurking, I know the engine would still be under warranty but for the cost of an oil change at least it wouldn't be swarf etc which would bugger the engine up and all the warranty hassle involved as a result. Thereafter I would resume to the standard oil change at the appropriate service intervals UNLESS I felt that the oil needed changing before hand.

To me, oil and good lubrication is the life and blood of an engine, as long as it's in good condition then fine, leave it alone but if it looks as if it's breaking down then change it.

Graham

[Lancia]

You missed another. 4) Service as per intervals. Sell car after 3 years once warranty runs out. easy. Hope Audi has something just as interesting to purchase.

[Love_iTT]

I think your item number 4) is basically what I said as in my item number 1), it's just that I didn't mention about selling after 3 years, if I keep this for more than three years I will still be doing the normal service intervals. I think that's what you meant anyway.

Graham