Should I change to an RS?

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Re: Should I change to an RS?

Post by PetrolDave » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:20 pm

I-want-an-RS wrote:I have an B6 S4 at the moment but am thinking of changing up to an RS. The question I have is for people that have done what I'm thing of, was it worth it?
Absolutely 100% YES.

I made the same change - B6 S4 Avant to B7 RS4 Avant - in July 2006, and haven't regretted it for a single micro-second.

OK it's a bit thirstier sometimes (18mpg commute instead of 20mpg), but not always (24mpg motorway cruise instead of 22mpg).

The sound of a V8 at 8000rpm, well this particular V8 anyway, is to die for. And it's an engine with a different character - the S4 engine gains rpm where the RS4 engine throws itself at the redline with gusto (throttle blips on down changes are easy and sound fantastic).

Every time I drive the RS4 I end up smiling like a Cheshire Cat - still after 11 months ...

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RE: Re: Should I change to an RS?

Post by I-want-an-RS » Fri Jun 08, 2007 1:53 pm

Thanks to everyone who answered.

I have made my mind up and am going for the RS4

Now next question- see next topic of mine

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Post by Gareth » Fri Jun 08, 2007 5:56 pm

Hi Alex

Thanks for the reply :)

For some people a PCP can be the right way to fund a car purchase. But in a very large number of cases when they understand the true costs and implacations of such an agreement they realise it is not for them. However it is always best to assess every case on a it's own merits and offer advice accordingly.

Some of the main issues with PCP's per se are as follows (and apologies if this seems desperately dull guys!!);

i) A higher rate of interest/commission for the entire deal i.e. costs you more than a lease purchase agreement
ii) Excess mileage penalties. You will be charged for exceeding any agreed mileage parameters which can work out expensive if you started the agreement thing you would cover 5k a year and then (perhaps for a move or job change) you then cover 20k a year
iii) Front loading of interest. This is one of the worst aspects of the PCP agreements-especially on expensive cars that proportionally depreciate more than "cheap" cars and if one is likely to end the agreement at anything before 50%-75% of the original term for the loan
iv) Contract rental status - with a PCP you are, in essence, just renting the car from the manufacturer who provides the car/finance and they are aimed to draw you back to that same source so that car can realise any guaranteed future value and/or to aviod early settlement penalties.

You also go on to compare the merits of borrowing via a car loan (PCP/Lease purchase) vs a Bank loan/Mortgage add on and then comparing that the net effect of savings accounts. There are certainly some valid points there, but my main thrust here was to compare the specifics of the car loan routes available to people-which is not to say that they shouldn't compare some of the points you've raised :)

At the end of the day if you are not paying cash (and therefore locking up your capital in a depreciating asset) it pays to have the best finance advice and agreement for your own specific case.

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Post by Lancia » Fri Jun 15, 2007 3:34 pm

I think youve made your mind up, not hard, Had an 03 S3, then a 05 B6 S4 and then got the RS4, It is so much better than the S4, Suspension particularly, smoother and better handling, and the diffs, man I love this car with ESP fully off. ;) ........Note only done it on the track and once on the road!!

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Post by GardinerG » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:07 pm

I guess my view is that if you can afford to save and buy it then you can afford to run and maintain it. Yes I lose out on the interest I would haven earnt on the savings, but then I pay £0 a month to keep the car on my driveway (if you ignore depreciation which isn't really part of this discussion anyway). Swings and roundabouts, but here's another thought for you...

Borrowing on the house (if that's your thang) is much cheaper than PSP or similar policies. Get a fixed rate loan and secure it, put as much deposit down that you can. And better yet pay it off as soon as possible.

I was quoted by Audi for a new RS4, I laughed at the interest rate (credit card rates) and enquired if the salesman actually thought it was reasonable? He didn't answer for some strange reason.

I guess you need to get some quotes and work out what option suits you best, just remember that £1,500 is enough to get stage II tuning, or 30 blowjobs (without bulk discount). :lol:

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Post by GardinerG » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:25 pm

just remember that £1,500 is enough to get stage II tuning, or 30 blowjobs (without bulk discount).
Doh! My Euro to £ conversion rate is out today. It should have been 44 blowjobs (without bulk discount). Sorry for the mistake. ;-)

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Post by I-want-an-RS » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:32 pm

Cheers for all the advice guys, I have decided to use my own cash to get it.

Going to look at a daytona avant on Monday

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Post by Jezzer » Fri Jun 15, 2007 4:46 pm

Why not try Gareth and see if he can get you a great deal on one. He sorted a deal on my X5 4.8is a couple of years back that I couldn't get anywhere near.
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Post by Gareth » Fri Jun 15, 2007 7:41 pm

Just realised it's you Jerry :lol:

Hello Mate, how are you? :)

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Post by Jezzer » Sat Jun 16, 2007 12:40 pm

Fine young man, how's it going?
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Post by audijohn » Sat Jun 16, 2007 4:51 pm

GardinerG wrote:I guess my view is that if you can afford to save and buy it then you can afford to run and maintain it. Yes I lose out on the interest I would haven earnt on the savings, but then I pay £0 a month to keep the car on my driveway (if you ignore depreciation which isn't really part of this discussion anyway). Swings and roundabouts, but here's another thought for you...

Borrowing on the house (if that's your thang) is much cheaper than PSP or similar policies. Get a fixed rate loan and secure it, put as much deposit down that you can. And better yet pay it off as soon as possible.

I was quoted by Audi for a new RS4, I laughed at the interest rate (credit card rates) and enquired if the salesman actually thought it was reasonable? He didn't answer for some strange reason.

I guess you need to get some quotes and work out what option suits you best, just remember that £1,500 is enough to get stage II tuning, or 30 blowjobs (without bulk discount). :lol:
Hi whats stage 2 tuning on an RS4 then?.

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Post by Gareth » Sat Jun 16, 2007 7:26 pm

Jezzer wrote:Fine young man, how's it going?

Bloody well thanks....less of the old man, more of the young man comments :lol:

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