Autocar - the finest RS model

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Post by Nickyboy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:05 am

Rick_RS4 wrote:i did nearly get rid of mine last year, and every time i get in it im thankful i didnt, i really dont know what to replace it with, maybe an apr supercharger :D ok the new RS range are new and shiney but they dont say ''get the f*** out the way '' to me the b8 and latest RS range are a bit bland, and what makes me not want to change either is they are all avants now, even the s3 is a mini avant, no sportyness about them, i would however have a b7 avant

for me the b7 ticks all the boxes and will do for a very long time
RS 5 is not an avant and is 2nd in looks only to the R8 (obviously I'm biased just like the B7 community :assflash: ).

Also, I think if I had the new RS 6 behind me I would "get the f*** out the way".

On the way to Milbrook I though Graeme's B8 RS 4 looked great in my rear view mirror, the only car that looked better was Golfathers RS 6.
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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by N13LXC » Wed Dec 11, 2013 9:38 am

When the B7 was released I was 24, at uni and working part time in a call centre, an RS4 wasnt on the cards.

Now, I'm not any of the above and an RS4 is on the cards. I want a new one so that means I get a B8, Im sure had the years been different the same argument would be made from B5/7.

Both are good cars, both are good looking cars and i wouldnt turn down either if offered! I would turn down a B5 tho...
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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by jaysrs4 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 10:46 am

Nickyboy wrote:
Rick_RS4 wrote:i did nearly get rid of mine last year, and every time i get in it im thankful i didnt, i really dont know what to replace it with, maybe an apr supercharger :D ok the new RS range are new and shiney but they dont say ''get the f*** out the way '' to me the b8 and latest RS range are a bit bland, and what makes me not want to change either is they are all avants now, even the s3 is a mini avant, no sportyness about them, i would however have a b7 avant

for me the b7 ticks all the boxes and will do for a very long time
RS 5 is not an avant and is 2nd in looks only to the R8 (obviously I'm biased just like the B7 community :assflash: ).

Also, I think if I had the new RS 6 behind me I would "get the f*** out the way".

On the way to Milbrook I though Graeme's B8 RS 4 looked great in my rear view mirror, the only car that looked better was Golfathers RS 6.
Think i'd probably "get the f*** out the way" if you came up behind me to be honest Nick! ;)
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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by Graeme4130 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:19 am

adsgreen wrote:Db9 was one of the big disappointments I've driven - it's more show than go.
Don't get me wrong - as a gt to be seen in its hard to beat. Handling and speed however...
There was a db9 at Vmax earlier in the year, and other then getting off the line, I couldn't keep up with it after about 40mph. There's no arguing with cubic inches and 12cylinders
Admittedly, my RS4 only had around 1000miles on the clock then, but that DB9 was quick
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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by Rick_RS4 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 11:43 am

The avant range are just road boats, the c6 is a tank, the rs5 is boring to look at too, just looking at a black one now and I didn't even get a twitch,

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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by daveh » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:01 pm

Is this the Jan edition? Just had a quick flick through the Dec one in newsagents and couldn't see it so assume this is the case but wanted to check I case I'd missed it :bash:

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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by guffy » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:45 pm

I was all over the backside of a DB9 recently whilst cruising the country roads in Aberdeenshire, it looked very ungainly, but anything resembling a straight and it was gone.

I probably should sell my RS4 as i have another car coming,but this kind of chat makes that decision even harder!!

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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by rocket1 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:47 pm

same here the copy i looked at had nothing about audis in it, is it autocar weekly or the monthly mag and what month/week edition. thanks
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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by nial335 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:35 pm

I've registered an email address with Autocar so they email reviews to me. This was the latest email from them.

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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by TimDogg » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:40 pm

Can you upload it somehow - like a screenshot maybe, I don't know whether this is allowed?!?
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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by nial335 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 4:45 pm

Yes, if someone can tell me how. Having looked at the email details, it seems to be from newsletter@em.autocar.co.uk

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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by nial335 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:07 pm

Best I can do for the moment. Will try to load the full article with pictures later. Apologies to those who made a wasted visit to the newsagents

LoginRegister. HomeCar reviewsCar newsBlogsVideoUsed carsValuations6 issues £6Driving ExperiencesHistory of the Audi RS - picture special
With Audi’s RS division celebrating its 20th anniversary next year, we take a look back at the German manufacturer’s halo range of performance cars.

The first Audi RS model was released in 1994, with the launch of the RS2 Avant PrevNextTweet Widget

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7 December 2013Follow @https://twitter.com/@autocar.Audi’s RS brand has been deeply rooted into the hearts of petrolheads for some time now, having solidified its reputation as equal company for the likes of BMW’s M and Mercedes-Benz’s AMG divisions. But where did it all begin?

After the success of Audi’s S2 coupe and the original ‘C4’-derived S4 saloon from 1991, the German carmaker decided to push the envelope further, when in 1994, Audi’s high performance Quattro GmbH division spawned a new halo performance sub-brand called RS – standing for RennSport, literally translating to ‘racing sport’.

Later that year, Quattro GmbH gave birth to the first two-lettered badge Audi in the form of the RS2 Avant. A brawny variation of the Audi 80 ‘B4’ model, the RS2 Avant (only available in estate form) was co-developed with Porsche; adopting the 993-generation 911’s wheels, fog lights and exterior mirrors and Porsche-designed brakes and suspension.

A highly potent car in its day, the RS2 Avant was powered by a 2.2-litre five cylinder 20-valve turbocharged engine, producing 311bhp and hooked up to a six-speed manual, shooting the car from 0-62mph in 5.4sec and on to a top speed of 163mph. The first RS-badged Audi proved a trendsetter in its day, with room for five adults, luggage and the ability to keep pace with the likes of the Honda NSX and Porsche 993 Carrera.

Fast-forward six years and a new mid-size platform of the ‘B5’ Audi A4 laid the foundations for the next S and RS derivatives, the halo model becoming the RS4 Avant – again only in estate form. The B5 RS4 Avant came propelled with a Cosworth-fettled 2.7-litre V6 twin-turbocharged unit, making 382bhp.

Engine aside, the B5 RS4 was Audi’s own project, having severed its ties with Porsche. The 0-62mph sprint was now dispatched in 4.9sec and the estate would accelerate on to a limited top speed of 155mph. Demand for the B5 RS4 Avant was so high that Audi doubled its production volumes. Production ceased after only a year in 2001, with over 6,000 examples made.

In 2002, Audi unleashed an entirely new model to its RS line-up – the A6-derived RS6 saloon and estate. With a muscular body, aluminium mirror caps and two large oval pipes for the exhaust, both the estate and saloon had an intimidating presence.

Again, Cosworth handled the engine - its 4.2-litre V8 endowed with two turbochargers for good measure, serving up 444bhp. Partnered with Audi’s five-speed tiptronic transmission, it enabled the RS6’s hefty frame to dash from 0-62mph in 4.7sec, while again being reigned in at 155mph. The RS6 plus debuted in 2004, with power increased to 480bhp and speed limited to 174mph. However, the C5 RS6 was plagued by vague steering feel and a heavily-understeering character.

Audi regained form in 2006, when it launched the new RS4 after a long hiatus. Available in saloon, Avant and cabriolet guise, the B7 RS4 variant is still regarded as Quattro GmbH’s ‘sweetspot’ and finest RS model. Drive was supplied by an all-new, high-revving 4.2-litre naturally-aspirated V8, pumping out 414bhp at a heady 7800rpm and mated to a six-speed manual gearbox. Zero to 62mph was taken care of in 4.8sec while (still conforming to the voluntary agreement) being limited to 155mph. De-restricted B7 RS4s were capable of cracking 180mph. After just 18 months Audi brought a premature halt to the B7 production line.

To this day, the beautifully proportioned B7 RS4 is fondly remembered at Autocar for its fluid ride, engaging handling and superb powertrain.

In 2008, the engineers at Neckarsulm went on a power craze, launching the ‘C6’ Audi RS6 with a 572bhp twin-turbocharged 5.0-litre V10, spearheading its BMW M5 and Mercedes E63 AMG rivals in the evident ‘power war’ at that time. Despite a chunky kerb weight of 2025kg the beefy RS6 could still hustle to 62mph in 4.6sec, though even on a combined cycle fuel consumption was poor. Despite possessing very fast acceleration for such a big car, some questioned the integrity of the RS badge – it was refined, almost too civilised and heavier at the front than perhaps was necessary.

The following year and Audi had the Porsche Cayman firmly locked in its crosshairs when it released the TT RS. Possessing a more anabolic appearance and a lower ride height over the standard TT with a large rear spoiler, the TT RS looked a much meaner machine. A 335bhp 2.5-litre five-pot turbocharged engine provided power. In 2012, the TT RS plus was launched, lifting power to 355bhp and removing the top speed limiter, enabling the TT RS plus to hit 174mph. The TT RS was famed for being blindingly quick, unexpectedly economical but with a jarring ride.

With an aim to rekindle some of the B7 RS4 magic, Audi launched the RS5 coupe in 2010. Powered by the same naturally-aspirated 4.2-litre V8 as the B7, but with mild tweaking to increase power to 444bhp with an all-singing 8500rpm redline, it was only available with a seven-speed twin-clutch gearbox. Zero to 62mph was covered in 4.6sec and it had genuine all-weather performance. However, it lacked just a touch of engagement and still felt weighty.

That same year, the Audi RS3 was hastened into production. With the TT RS’ 2.5-litre five-pot turbocharged engine shoehorned into the bonnet and mated to a seven-speed dual-clutch gearbox, the RS3 proved to be a more than capable performance hatchback. Despite the engine character, everyday usability and practicality, the RS3’s dynamic prowess was dampened by its inert steering and lack of chassis finesse.

In 2012, Quattro GmBH reverted back to its traditional format for the new RS4, launching it in estate form only. The styling was turned up a notch, with steroidal wheel arches, triangular air intakes on the front fascia and large oval-tipped exhausts at the rear, which added up to a wonderfully macho-looking car. It utilised the same 4.2-litre V8 444bhp motor from the RS5 with 0-62mph covered in 4.7sec while being limited to 155mph. An optional extra would allow this to be stretched to 174mph.

That year also saw the debut of the C7 RS6, with Audi retiring its predecessor’s mighty V10 powerplant in favour of a downsized 4.0-litre twin-turbocharged V8 making 553bhp. Even with the reduced engine capacity, the new RS6 remains quicker than its predecessor – rattling off the 0-62mph sprint in a staggering 3.9sec and passing the quarter-mile mark just three-tenths slower than a Porsche 997 GT2.

With Audi launching an all-new model in the form of the RS7 this year and confirming the Q1 will go into production in 2016, as well as Quattro GmbH readying a high performance version of its A1 hatchback, can the performance division once again return to the dizzying heights of its B7 RS4 with its future models?

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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by chunky79 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:41 pm

Rick_RS4 wrote: the rs5 is boring to look at too, just looking at a black one now and I didn't even get a twitch,
You gotta be ghey, the RS5 is schexy. What happens down stairs when you look at an R8 or Jag F type?
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Porsche Macan Turbo.
Gone but NEVER forgotten - C5 RS6 Misano red avant.

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Re: Autocar - the finest RS model

Post by jaysrs4 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 5:57 pm

chunky79 wrote:
Rick_RS4 wrote: the rs5 is boring to look at too, just looking at a black one now and I didn't even get a twitch,
You gotta be ghey, the RS5 is schexy. What happens down stairs when you look at an R8 or Jag F type?
I actually to get a wet bit come out when I look at an F-Type I must admit.

R8, not quite so much of a wet bit, more like a semi.
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Post by Graeme4130 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 6:24 pm

jaysrs4 wrote:
chunky79 wrote:
Rick_RS4 wrote: the rs5 is boring to look at too, just looking at a black one now and I didn't even get a twitch,
You gotta be ghey, the RS5 is schexy. What happens down stairs when you look at an R8 or Jag F type?
I actually to get a wet bit come out when I look at an F-Type I must admit.

R8, not quite so much of a wet bit, more like a semi.
Every time I see an FType coupe picture I get a twitch in the pants and then my wallet cringes at the massive depreciation it'll take over the first 3yrs
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Gone - 11/06 B7 RS4 Avant - black/black (Daily drive & kids taxi)
Gone - 05/13 B8 RS4 Avant - Suzuka grey (Daily drive & kids taxi)
Gone - 01/14 B8 RS5 Coupe - Short term car
Gone - 09/14 B8 RS4 Avant - Misano Red/Ceramics (Daily drive & kids taxi)

Current - 04/18 B9 Rs4 Nardo Grey
ZX10R Race bike - 210bhp and a few skid marks on the seat ;)

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