Ceramic brakes

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Ceramic brakes

Post by harding » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:15 pm

There is a beautiful white edition RS4 2008 for sale in sweden, and i want to go and look at it. It has 100.000km on the meter - so im just wondering, when is it time for the brake change on the ones with ceramic brakes? Ive been told the price tag on changing the disks are about £4500? True, false?
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Re: Ceramic breaks

Post by PetrolDave » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:35 pm

Brakes are what stop your car, break is what your car does when your brakes don't work :beerchug:

In some countries I believe that Audi offer a 150,000km warranty on the ceramic discs.
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Re: Ceramic breaks

Post by barryrs » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:50 pm

From recent posts and having covered 100k kilometers they will be a liability IMO and I would allow £5k plus for a new set.

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Re: Ceramic breaks

Post by harding » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:07 pm

PetrolDave wrote:Brakes are what stop your car, break is what your car does when your brakes don't work :beerchug:
Hahaha sorry, my bad. I thought all the way something wasnt quite right. :lol:

Thanks for the info you two!
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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by HYFR » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:49 pm

100km is how many miles??

If its just road use, they will be more than fine...it depends how much hard track use they have had...

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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by rocket1 » Mon Nov 18, 2013 9:36 pm

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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by jonicox » Mon Nov 18, 2013 10:49 pm

Audi reckon that the discs are good for 300,000km under normal driving, but as D_K says, this is likely to be a bit shorter if tracked.
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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by Teutonic_Tamer » Mon Nov 18, 2013 11:28 pm

In the UK, the ceramic discs retail at about £2100 each. SGL Carbon, who make the discs for Audi (as well as for Porsche and Lambo) state the service life is 150,000 miles. As for wear - they don't wear in the conventional sense, they degrade and loose mass when overheated. So they should really be weighed to determine when they need replacing.
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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by HerbBerb » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:12 am

Apologies if this has been covered a million times but, is it a straight forward swap to standard discs on a car fitted with ceramic ones when they are ready for a change?

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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by jonicox » Tue Nov 19, 2013 11:26 am

cheese666 wrote:Apologies if this has been covered a million times but, is it a straight forward swap to standard discs on a car fitted with ceramic ones when they are ready for a change?
I think you will need to change callipers as well as the ceramics are a different diameter. Probably bits of coding to do as well to let the system know you have changed.
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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by Teutonic_Tamer » Tue Nov 19, 2013 12:18 pm

cheese666 wrote:Apologies if this has been covered a million times but, is it a straight forward swap to standard discs on a car fitted with ceramic ones when they are ready for a change?
Diferent discs, differnet pads, different calipers, different splash shields.

Audi do an official retro fit kit containing all the bits you need (except the splash shields), including a CD-ROM with a few pdf documents on there. Part number is 8E0 098 203. Make sure a sturdy seat is nearby when asking for the price thou! :biggrin3:
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Re: Ceramic brakes

Post by Surrey Sam » Tue Nov 19, 2013 2:17 pm

Teutonic_Tamer wrote:
cheese666 wrote:Apologies if this has been covered a million times but, is it a straight forward swap to standard discs on a car fitted with ceramic ones when they are ready for a change?
Diferent discs, differnet pads, different calipers, different splash shields.

Audi do an official retro fit kit containing all the bits you need (except the splash shields), including a CD-ROM with a few pdf documents on there. Part number is 8E0 098 203. Make sure a sturdy seat is nearby when asking for the price thou! :biggrin3:

TT - Is that not the Ceramic retrofit kit, I read the question as swapping back to the steel setup? From reading your historical posts I see that you're a stickler for correct information, so wouldn't want any duff information out there?
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