BMW 135i encounter

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BMW 135i encounter

Post by wrekka » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:20 pm

Came up behind one of these this morning at a round-a-bout on a quiet stretch of road.

It was raining and he gunned it. I thought he may have struggled accelerating out of the round -a-bout being rear wheel drive...

Not so...

I could not catch him and to be honest I would say he was ever so slightly pulling away!

Hate that rare feeling.....feeling inadequate!
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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by HYFR » Tue Feb 28, 2012 10:34 pm

mapped ?

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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by wrekka » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:00 pm

who knows?
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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by rs4blacked » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:43 pm

A lighter car with 3.0 twin turbo engine and 306bhp as standard
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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by klauster » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:49 pm

They look like a pile of sh*t though ;)
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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by bfettie » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:50 pm

Aye, but their odd moments of glory will be tempered by the fact they drive a 1 series !!

God, they are ugly.

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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by rs4blacked » Tue Feb 28, 2012 11:53 pm

The 1M on the other hand is an awesome piece of kit but would not temp me away from the RS4
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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by Graeme4130 » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:10 am

It shouldn't have pulled away
I've a colleague with one, and I can leave him on the dual carriageway.
Out of tight corners it's a more even battle...... until it rains... or snows :)

Maybe it was modified ?
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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by stu » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:41 am

Something doesn't add up. I can wipe the floor when playing around with my brother in law in his 335i. The balance is tipped with 3x90kg+ passengers in with me though!

The 135i is about 70kg lighter than the 335i - not much, so probably not enough to out perform a stock B7 RS4. Torque is very similar (400ish for the 135/335 verus 430Nm for the RS4).

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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by stu » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:55 am

Just had a quick Google... for about £450, Superchips will change a 135i from 315 HP to 360 HP and from 394 Nm to 456 Nm.

So...
Superchipped 135i= 1560kg; 360hp = 240hp/ton with torque advantage
Stock saloon RS4= 1650kg; 414hp = 250hp/ton
(source for numbers: wikipedia)

Throw in a little carbon and whatever else takes the edge off our engines and you've got a match :shock:

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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by adsgreen » Wed Feb 29, 2012 8:17 am

Comparing bhp / ton with n/a and turbo engines is a bit difficult.

If you started below 5k rpm then the forced induction has such a huge advantage even if down on ultimate power.

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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by Pie » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:26 pm

Really depends where in the rev range you were sitting when you put your foot down.

I've had encounters with some really mediocre average cars and didn't bother changing down - much to my own detriment.

Like Ads says, the real fun starts from about the 5k mark.

On an unrelated note, theres major roadworks outside my work at the moment so to avoid the gridlock in the mornings (read blatantly flout traffic laws) I've taken the R1 out of hibernation early.

Fck me this thing can shift! :mrgreen:
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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by PaulF » Wed Feb 29, 2012 12:29 pm

Remapped B5 it has to be then.

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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by sakimano » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:26 pm

There are probably 5 other tunes that are far better for the 135i than superchips. There are plenty of 350-375 whp (400+ bhp) 135/335 cars out there with simple tune/intake mods. Some of the more effective tunes make even more power. A tuned one should do well against an RS4.

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Re: BMW 135i encounter

Post by wrekka » Wed Feb 29, 2012 9:51 pm

Thanks for the responses.

The conclusion to me is that it must have been tuned, as it was suprising how I couldn't even gain any ground on it at all!

I know my car is pretty quick as I've had run ins with other fast motors and not had any problems.
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Sold: 2014 Audi S4 Avant Black Edition (too slow as a stock car-doesn't sound good);
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