Seen an RS4 but it has ceramics!!
Seen an RS4 but it has ceramics!!
As above but what are peoples opinions on cars fitted with the ceramic brake option?
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RE: Seen an RS4 but it has ceramics!!
Pros (from what i can think of) : Very expensive option when purchased at new, long term cost saving, much lighter than stock setup hence 'should' give the car a more nimble feel and better steering response, perform brilliantly, especially when worked hard! No brake dust, look fantastic with the bigger disc and Ceramic calipers...
Cons : Expense if and when something was to go wrong
I'm sure someone will be along to add more
(if you don't want, you can have my 380mm Brembo from my B7
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Cons : Expense if and when something was to go wrong
I'm sure someone will be along to add more
(if you don't want, you can have my 380mm Brembo from my B7
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RE: Seen an RS4 but it has ceramics!!
Had mine for 44k miles now and not an ounce of trouble. They are off at the moment and it gave me a good chance to inspect them with the master tech and he pointed out all the area's to check. They still look like new but then I must brake like girl!!
I'm told they are about 2k a disk plus £500 for the pads plus labour but should last between 100-140k miles
I'm told they are about 2k a disk plus £500 for the pads plus labour but should last between 100-140k miles
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Wasn't it Porsche that promised 100k + miles but in reality it was far less? [just found link see below]
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/46530 ... blems.html
My opinion (and it's justs that) is that there is a good chance that the first owner will have driven the car hard including track use if they were going to spec these which isn't what I'd want from a previous owner of my car even if I tracked it myself.
http://www.evo.co.uk/news/evonews/46530 ... blems.html
My opinion (and it's justs that) is that there is a good chance that the first owner will have driven the car hard including track use if they were going to spec these which isn't what I'd want from a previous owner of my car even if I tracked it myself.
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Or it could be that some people simply like to have the best of whatever they are purchasing i.e do you buy a bog standard "hoover" or do you go for the Dyson? Thus, when the RS was ordered it could have been treated to options simply so the owner could 'have them' rather than to expolit every performance benefit from them.Steve_C wrote:+1neckarsulm wrote:My opinion (and it's justs that) is that there is a good chance that the first owner will have driven the car hard including track use if they were going to spec these which isn't what I'd want from a previous owner of my car even if I tracked it myself.
I know I slip into this trait from time to time (when speccing PC's, buying suits, ordering wine when out for dinner etc) so I wouldn't dismiss this vehicle immediately.
Quite. That was my situation. Unusually (for me), I was in the lucky position in 2007 of being able to order exactly the car I wanted and I went down the options list accordingly. I doubt I'll be able to do that again for a little while.matthew.lewis2 wrote:Or it could be that some people simply like to have the best of whatever they are purchasing i.e do you buy a bog standard "hoover" or do you go for the Dyson? Thus, when the RS was ordered it could have been treated to options simply so the owner could 'have them' rather than to expolit every performance benefit from them.Steve_C wrote:+1neckarsulm wrote:My opinion (and it's justs that) is that there is a good chance that the first owner will have driven the car hard including track use if they were going to spec these which isn't what I'd want from a previous owner of my car even if I tracked it myself.
I know I slip into this trait from time to time (when speccing PC's, buying suits, ordering wine when out for dinner etc) so I wouldn't dismiss this vehicle immediately.
Would I buy a car with ceramics? Absolutely. Would I worry that it might have been tracked? Not in the slightest, so long as it had also been properly maintained. Aren't these cars are designed for it?
IIRC, the pads and discs are warranted for 150k miles, although I've never seen that in writing........ I do know that after 25k miles there was no visible wear (on the fronts). Plenty on the back though.
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Ceramics on mine. I'll echo exactly what Nills said, no brake dust, fantastic performance, lighter, and they look great with the huge calipers. Cost is scary should anything go wrong but I heard somewhere that the brakes can outlast the rest of the car!
Regarding the reasons for them being fitted originally, I disagree with Neckarsulm on that one and think it more likely that they would have been added when speccing the car as 'must-have' option. (great if you've got the money to do so!) I could be wrong but I doubt that many new RS4 buyers would be thinking about tracking their car seriously when buying it. Lucky for me, my own car is one of those where the original owner was a 'box ticker' and specced everything worth having when he ordered it.
Go for it!
Regarding the reasons for them being fitted originally, I disagree with Neckarsulm on that one and think it more likely that they would have been added when speccing the car as 'must-have' option. (great if you've got the money to do so!) I could be wrong but I doubt that many new RS4 buyers would be thinking about tracking their car seriously when buying it. Lucky for me, my own car is one of those where the original owner was a 'box ticker' and specced everything worth having when he ordered it.
Go for it!
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Iain,22B wrote:Lucky for me, my own car is one of those where the original owner was a 'box ticker' and specced everything worth having when he ordered it.
i've seen your white weapon and I think that the 1st owner filled in a 2nd page with the options!
I would defo' take the ceramics spec car over a std one - and they're are suppost to be bullet proof...
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2010 Smart fourtwo
Sold but never forgotten:
2014 RS4 Sepang Blue
2015 VW Golf-R
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RS4 B7 Avant Daytona
2002 Renault Avantime V6
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2009 TT TDi Quattro
10 Subaru's inc 22B type UK
Renault Clio V6 MK2
Civic Type-R's Mk1, 2 and 3
Renault Spider, Lotus Exige MK1
Renault Clio 197, Renault Clio Williams MK1
205 GTi 1.6 & 1.9 Gutmann
Thinking about the costs, I wonder how many people ordering their car would have thought more about ceramics if they had been told how quickly the steel option warp and how often they would be looking at changing them in the cars lifetime. Not to mention the all the other positive comments above.
It was the dealmaker for me. I’m going to find it hard not to have ceramics on my next car
It was the dealmaker for me. I’m going to find it hard not to have ceramics on my next car
I think you are right but sometimes you run out of money before ticks at least that is my excuse for not speccing thempad125 wrote:Thinking about the costs, I wonder how many people ordering their car would have thought more about ceramics if they had been told how quickly the steel option warp and how often they would be looking at changing them in the cars lifetime. Not to mention the all the other positive comments above.
It was the dealmaker for me. I’m going to find it hard not to have ceramics on my next car
C6 RS6 for you then, and you get them on the rear as well!pad125 wrote:Thinking about the costs, I wonder how many people ordering their car would have thought more about ceramics if they had been told how quickly the steel option warp and how often they would be looking at changing them in the cars lifetime. Not to mention the all the other positive comments above.
It was the dealmaker for me. I’m going to find it hard not to have ceramics on my next car
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