Pondering a change...maybe

[karl]

Had my RS4 just over a year now and have loved every minute of it, especially after MRC'ing it.

However, I keep on looking at GT-R's (R35) and wonder whether it's time for a change as my RS is almost 3 yrs old now. To me, the GT-R is the only real alternative currently as it has four seats, whereas stuff like R8's / 911's etc don't.

I just wonder though if I'd miss the manual gearchange or would the GT-R experience not make me think twice? A test drive is not long enough to make this sort of thing obvious or clear is it.

I had a Mk 5 GTi DSG and found it very boring, even after remap/Milltek which took it to 252 BHP; I just didn't feel involved with the driving experience and got shot of it after only 2000 mls.

I don't know; the more I read about GT_R's, the more impressed I am...hmm, it's tempting...very tempting.

[aidanjaye]

Also moved on from a MK5 GTI (wifes choice after I wrote off my Skyline GTR). The Golf was also tuned to around 250 BHP but it WAS boring. It wasn't that it was slow, just that I got so annoyed trying too get power to the road via the two wheels.

New GTR!!! Stunning and the prices are dropping to nearer what I can afford. Wouldn't it be nice to have a car that produces lots more HP than what the makers claim. My only prob would be rear leg room as I have two sprogs. Suppose could always sell the kids....

[johninspain]

Well the GT-R is an awsome car, haveing test driven a few times, i also have a 997 Turbo, the actuall driveing of the GT-R was compared to the 997 uninvolveing. To much stuff takeing over from you, i came to the 997 from a 996 turbo, if you can live with the small rear seats in the 996 go for that, the you can get a decent 996 for less than GT-R money !!! The running costs, so im told on the GT-R are expensive, it is also expensive when things go bang ! The 996 or 997 realy are quite cheap to run, you can get them serviced at decent spcialist service centers, whitch you cant yet for the GT-R, ant i drive hard, never had a problem with eather porka

[karl]

Hmm...I'm gonna have to get myself along to the nearest dealer to have a good look at the GT-R if I can find one. If the rear seats are pitiful then that would cause me to reconsider (I hope, at least for the family's sake!).

[karl]

Well the GT-R is an awsome car, haveing test driven a few times, i also have a 997 Turbo, the actuall driveing of the GT-R was compared to the 997 uninvolveing. To much stuff takeing over from you, i came to the 997 from a 996 turbo, if you can live with the small rear seats in the 996 go for that, the you can get a decent 996 for less than GT-R money !!! The running costs, so im told on the GT-R are expensive, it is also expensive when things go bang ! The 996 or 997 realy are quite cheap to run, you can get them serviced at decent spcialist service centers, whitch you cant yet for the GT-R, ant i drive hard, never had a problem with eather porka

John, you say you've test driven the GT_R 'a few times'? What didn't you like about it?

[pippyrips]

Karl - we could be twins..!

The GT-R is still high on my replacement list once I sort my dodgy back out. The seats in the rear are pretty big, or at least deep which might be where you will struggle - that said ive set the passenger seat as far forward as comfortable for me (6"2) and fitted in the back (forget behind the drivers seat)

I know what you mean about missing manual gear throws, but they will be consigned to the history books for ever in 5 years or so and the GT-R box is a class act (that said so is the M3 DCT box...)

It's not as good an all round car as the RS4, I still don't think a better one has been made since but it is a great piece of kit, my only reservation with it was it's just so capable it might be hard to get the driving thrills without finding yourself going to jail if caught on a public road!

Take one out for a drive, your nearest HPC is Oxford and they are more than happy to let you take one for a spin - they also have a great test drive route

p.s.

Just remembered I never got back to you withthe garage name - give me a call if it's not too late!

[karl]

Rob

Thanks for the info. What you've mentioned is also one of my concerns re being able to get the driving thrills without having to go full tilt. I found in the GTi (OK, I know were talking different animals here!) that unless I was caning it, I didn't enjoy it - at all, and found it very mundane. It also did my back no favours at all (injured in a bike accident). The RS4 as well as being great for my back is great to drive at any speeds, I don't have to be going mad in it to appreciate and enjoy it.

Would I say the same for the GT-R? I will contact Oxford re a test-drive so thanks again.

[johninspain]

Well the GT-R is an awsome car, haveing test driven a few times, i also have a 997 Turbo, the actuall driveing of the GT-R was compared to the 997 uninvolveing. To much stuff takeing over from you, i came to the 997 from a 996 turbo, if you can live with the small rear seats in the 996 go for that, the you can get a decent 996 for less than GT-R money !!! The running costs, so im told on the GT-R are expensive, it is also expensive when things go bang ! The 996 or 997 realy are quite cheap to run, you can get them serviced at decent spcialist service centers, whitch you cant yet for the GT-R, ant i drive hard, never had a problem with eather porka

John, you say you've test driven the GT_R 'a few times'? What didn't you like about it?[/quote

I drove a jap car when they first came out, subsiquently a uk car twice at william loughrans preston, i couldnt make up my mind about them, i have since come to the conclusion that for ME there was to many things taken away from you, to much doing stuff for you , does that make sence ?

It does out perform the 997, but it doesnt do what i expected because some mad gizmo cuts in and makes it grip where you dont expect there to be any etc !

You basicly have to forget what you have learned in regard to driveing fast, and re learn in a GT-R, it is amazeing, but to many gizmos for me.

Thats just me though

[karl]

Don't worry about the garage name Rob. I've decided to get it back to MRC and 'Doctor' Doug is going to give it a quick inspection service at the same time. Thanks anyway.

[karl]

Well the GT-R is an awsome car, haveing test driven a few times, i also have a 997 Turbo, the actuall driveing of the GT-R was compared to the 997 uninvolveing. To much stuff takeing over from you, i came to the 997 from a 996 turbo, if you can live with the small rear seats in the 996 go for that, the you can get a decent 996 for less than GT-R money !!! The running costs, so im told on the GT-R are expensive, it is also expensive when things go bang ! The 996 or 997 realy are quite cheap to run, you can get them serviced at decent spcialist service centers, whitch you cant yet for the GT-R, ant i drive hard, never had a problem with eather porka

John, you say you've test driven the GT_R 'a few times'? What didn't you like about it?[/quote

I drove a jap car when they first came out, subsiquently a uk car twice at william loughrans preston, i couldnt make up my mind about them, i have since come to the conclusion that for ME there was to many things taken away from you, to much doing stuff for you , does that make sence ?

It does out perform the 997, but it doesnt do what i expected because some mad gizmo cuts in and makes it grip where you dont expect there to be any etc !

You basicly have to forget what you have learned in regard to driveing fast, and re learn in a GT-R, it is amazeing, but to many gizmos for me.

Thats just me though

I hear what you're saying John and I would feel much the same.

[aidanjaye]

Well the GT-R is an awsome car, haveing test driven a few times, i also have a 997 Turbo, the actuall driveing of the GT-R was compared to the 997 uninvolveing. To much stuff takeing over from you, i came to the 997 from a 996 turbo, if you can live with the small rear seats in the 996 go for that, the you can get a decent 996 for less than GT-R money !!! The running costs, so im told on the GT-R are expensive, it is also expensive when things go bang ! The 996 or 997 realy are quite cheap to run, you can get them serviced at decent spcialist service centers, whitch you cant yet for the GT-R, ant i drive hard, never had a problem with eather porka

John, you say you've test driven the GT_R 'a few times'? What didn't you like about it?[/quote

I drove a jap car when they first came out, subsiquently a uk car twice at william loughrans preston, i couldnt make up my mind about them, i have since come to the conclusion that for ME there was to many things taken away from you, to much doing stuff for you , does that make sence ?

It does out perform the 997, but it doesnt do what i expected because some mad gizmo cuts in and makes it grip where you dont expect there to be any etc !

You basicly have to forget what you have learned in regard to driveing fast, and re learn in a GT-R, it is amazeing, but to many gizmos for me.

Thats just me though

All GTRs are like that - old and new. You have to drive them extremely hard to get the car working with you. Took me over a year too fully get to terms with one (R33), soon after it all went pear shaped....probably due to the fact that you really have to be making head way and when you are, things can go wrong (very quickly).
Can't wait to try the latest one.
Pick of the bunch was prob the original though.

[svassileou]

Go into it with eyes open - not sure whether you've already seen this:

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/127250-accid ... i-did.html

I think if you take the view that it's a cheap car for what it does but repair/maintenance might be costly (versus an expensive car at the outset with minimal running costs), then go for it.

[johninspain]

id be looking at his if i were you !!!

http://www.gtr.co.uk/forum/122795-anybo ... heard.html


How can a warrenty be void if you press the break peddle hard, turn off the traction controll, or even use the launch controll. ?

[aidanjaye]

Emmm, stick with the RS4 then. 318 quid a year fully comp.

[ChuckUK]

I moved from a RS4 to a GTR and this was blind. Even the day I picked the car up I hadn't driven one.

The only thing I miss about my RS4 is the exhaust note, everything else took my expectations and exceeded them.