Group buy Alcon 370mm monoblok 6-pot

[citanest]

I was trying to be diplomatic about it but since that is lost on you then they would work like any other brakes would up to a point

apologize for jumping the gun. wasn't meant to be personal.
I was agitated because of JHM.
Whenever I asked them about the reliability of their rotors at the track, I either don't get a reply or they dodge the question and say something else...

[P_G]

Add them to the list of most ECU remappers, Stasis, Carbonio, Brembo, Willwood, Sportec and MTM from personal experience. A large number of tuners and performance part manufacturers have a lot to learn about customer service.

[ollys]

STaSIS Engineering 370mm Mono6 Big Brake Package - $3143.65 set (Retail - $3895, You Save - $751.35) - FREE SHIPPING (48 Lower Only)

This offer is from Europrice and we have 1 spot left to get to 5 people (minimum) to buy the kit at the above price. I am already in.

Anyone interested?

I am interested in this and have sent you a pm

[citanest]

Add them to the list of most ECU remappers, Stasis, Carbonio, Brembo, Willwood, Sportec and MTM from personal experience. A large number of tuners and performance part manufacturers have a lot to learn about customer service.

Agree 200%. I ask them a quesiton and usally get a reply in a MONTH? if at all....

[MilkybarKid]

The discs may well be 10lbs lighter but part of that is because they are 5mm smaller

You have 375mm rotors?

[Europrice]

I don't want to step on any vendors toes here, not sure what your regulations are on posting concerning subjects like this, however if any of you have any questions please concerning this braking system do not hesitate to email me at: contact@europrice.us

I'd love to get you guys the information concerning this system if you are interested to learn more, though again I don't want to do anything against forum policies. I will say this however, as most of you say customer service from larger manufacturers is poor, this is why working with a smaller firm such as mine can allow for much greater communication and personal attention. As a vendor of product I am able to get in contact with representatives at the larger companies who seem to have slow response times to public inquiries, plus I have much of the knowledge on hand already, especially with the STaSIS products since I worked there for 2 years as well. They really do make quality product and when I was working there there was some attempt to bring product to the other side of the pond but shipping costs usually drove most people off. Kits for these cars tend to weigh out at 55-75lbs and with major carriers this gets expensive, not to mention duty/tax, etc. I am always happy to bring product overseas, a fair amount of my business is overseas, and I'm always happy to answer any questions or fulfill any request.

If I get a nod of approval from the forum I am happy to explain more about the brakes, they are quite good however the RS4 brakes are quite good too, though I know some of you have found the limitations of them.

Have Great Holidays!

[duud40]

You guys know the 8 piston caliper that the rs4 comes with are pretty much top of the line don`t you?
You don`t get a massive improvement from shedding 18 kgs and the price is...
They look cool though

[duud40]

I fitted braided hoses,rbf660 and ds2500 and jhm rotors and found the combo to be very good. I don`t track my car though.

[citanest]

The caliper is the brembo GT8. It's not top of the line. The monoblok is a step above GT8, then the GTR is the pinnacle.

Alcon is a good alternative. Their rotors are track proven as they use them for the race cars.

This upgrade is more for the rotor than the caliper, as I mentioned in my previous comment. Unfortunately, there aren't many rotor options. Going from OEM to JHM is a compromise in my view. Even JHM admitted that. I would be shaking if I use their rotors in my car.

[PetrolDave]

Going from OEM to JHM is a compromise in my view. Even JHM admitted that.

The one thing I don't believe anyone should compromise on is brakes.

[aidanjaye]

And better brakes probably make you a lot faster than the equivalent cash spent on more horsepower.

[P_G]

The caliper is the brembo GT8. It's not top of the line. The monoblok is a step above GT8, then the GTR is the pinnacle.

Alcon is a good alternative. Their rotors are track proven as they use them for the race cars.

This upgrade is more for the rotor than the caliper, as I mentioned in my previous comment. Unfortunately, there aren't many rotor options. Going from OEM to JHM is a compromise in my view. Even JHM admitted that. I would be shaking if I use their rotors in my car.

How did JHM admit that using their rotors was a compromise over OEM?

[duud40]

I missed that part too.

The only problems I ever had with braking in the rs4 were : brakes faded (on track ) , discs cracked and pads were bad quality. Maybe I don`t use the brakes as much as needed to make me see the alcons as an upgrade.
The OEM caliper is "pretty much" top of the line as far as what you would find on a street car, coming from the factory.

I had un-even wear on the disc, the stock pads were crap.
Changed pads to ds2500, changed discs and I find braking to be very good but hey... maybe i`m just a carebear .
By all means don`t let my posts keep you from geting the alcons . I`m just saying I as in me as in duud40 don`t see the point .
Not once did I need more stopping power . For me at least, the limiting factor was always tire traction . Whenever I was on the limit with braking , the tires would skid.

[aidanjaye]

I missed that part too.

The only problems I ever had with braking in the rs4 were : brakes faded (on track ) , discs cracked and pads were bad quality. Maybe I don`t use the brakes as much as needed to make me see the alcons as an upgrade.
The OEM caliper is "pretty much" top of the line as far as what you would find on a street car, coming from the factory.

I had un-even wear on the disc, the stock pads were crap.
Changed pads to ds2500, changed discs and I find braking to be very good but hey... maybe i`m just a carebear .
By all means don`t let my posts keep you from geting the alcons . I`m just saying I as in me as in duud40 don`t see the point .
Not once did I need more stopping power . For me at least, the limiting factor was always tire traction . Whenever I was on the limit with braking , the tires would skid.

Exactly - braided hoses, upgraded pads, fresh fluid and good condition OEM discs probably will be all you will need for the road (and most tracks). All in a cost of 1K if your disc were buggered to begin with (and you change the pasts yourself). Spend similiar on HP increase and I believe that the cash spent on brakes will make you faster than the Hp route.

[P_G]

The discs may well be 10lbs lighter but part of that is because they are 5mm smaller

You have 375mm rotors?

My mistake, having re-read the post I thought it said 360mm rather than the 370mm. So that means the weight gain is pretty much down to the Alcon disk having a bigger vane gap and less disc material.