RS4 Avant or M5 Touring - anyone had both?

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Thanks, someone who know's their motors and I found exactly the same, in Msport mode no question the gear change was awesome but in the normal and manual mode no way.

We used to have a gravel drive and you want to try nudging forward on a gravel track in 1st gear without spinning the wheels, how on earth do you actually start the car in motion???????

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cheers guys.. all useful info. Ultimately it'll be a case of test drive everything but good to hear the background stories from those who've done it before what ever I get aint going to compare with the masser but would be nice to have something enjoyable!