RS4 versus C63

Post by **rAudiguy** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:05 pm

Good Post Darryl.... Now jog on you trator!!! lol

Only kidding mate! we'll do some runs next Tuesday yeah?

Jim

Post by **Contigo** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:08 pm

I bet he'll pull away from you Jim, get used to it mate

Post by **rAudiguy** » Wed Apr 22, 2009 11:13 pm

Mate he will on Tuesday that's for sure!!!

I'm just praying for rain!!!!!

Post by **djcevo** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:15 am

rAudiguy wrote:Mate he will on Tuesday that's for sure!!! I'm just praying for rain!!!!!

If it's raining you will be seeing the side of my car a great deal I can assure you of that

!!! lol.

Jim - definately up for having a few little runs mate, will be very intersting to see how they compare.

D

Post by **PetrolDave** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 8:18 am

djcevo wrote:If it's raining mate yopu will be seeing the side of my car a great deal I can assure you of that !!! lol.

That's the reason I like the RS4 - its performance is usable all the time, come sun, rain, snow, WHY. I don't want a car where I have to be an expert weather forecaster and clairvoyant as well

Post by **Les** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 9:47 am

Yeah great post Darryl.

Will be good to see how you guys get on. To be fair in a straight line, in the dry the C63 must pull away a little

If it's raining I'm sure rAudiguy will enjoy seeing a C63 going side ways at 70mph in his rear view mirror

Look forward to your report on how things go and be careful guys.

Post by **SR71** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 1:48 pm

I have to agree, the C63 sounds bloody marvellous.

At Goodwood last year there were a bunch of them and I was well impressed.

And the fact that you can "chip" the naturally aspirated bugger for another 80+hp just like that is astonishing...

Post by **reevesroadster** » Thu Apr 23, 2009 6:32 pm

I'll look forward to a few runs down the road - similar fashion to those when we had the RS4's out for a spin.

Having driven the AMG, I do think djcevo will have the edge, so I best be picking some bendy roads, and hoping for a spattering of rain!! Either way, it'll be great fun - and thats what its all about.

Post by **NGS521** » Fri Apr 24, 2009 12:21 pm

PetrolDave wrote: That's the reason I like the RS4 - its performance is usable all the time, come sun, rain, snow, WHY. I don't want a car where I have to be an expert weather forecaster and clairvoyant as well

I dont need to be a clairvoyant, I live in Aberdeen, I know it WILL be raining and the C63 will be in a ditch.

It's a good looking thing though!

Post by **reevesroadster** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:12 pm

Well.............

We nipped out on some private road earlier this week. It was dry, and sunny - till it got dark.

And the verdict..........I need a new clutch, new disc and pads and djcevo has been home about half an hour!!!

We played for about 45 minutes, with the following results:

Straight Line:
C63 in Auto Sport - left me standing, literally! didnt matter if we did a standing start or rolling start from about 40mph.
C63 in Manual - still left me standing, but not quite as much. The standing start was actually quite close for the first half a dozen seconds

Corners/Bends/Roundabouts:
More difficult to gauge differences as there wasnt lots of bends/roundabouts on our private road

. whilst following the C63 (which seemed to be the norm for me) it had amazing grip and follow through in the bends, with minimal lean/imbalance.

We had to top playing as it was dark (thats my excuse). My clutch was red hot - literally - and I can still smell it now!!

We both managed approx 10.8 MPG, so fuel consumption was about the same, and we'd both started with approx half a tank of fuel. (This was purely coincidental, we are not quite that anal).

To add injury to insult, I'd not long had my car back from the stealers where it had been given a new lease of life. My car is currently stock.

Post by **aidanjaye** » Sat May 09, 2009 9:32 pm

Nice to see people using their cars as meant to be ....on private roads of course.

Good luck with the clutch.

Post by **DavidRoss** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:08 am

reevesroadster wrote:Well.............

We nipped out on some private road earlier this week. It was dry, and sunny - till it got dark.

And the verdict..........I need a new clutch, new disc and pads and djcevo has been home about half an hour!!!

We played for about 45 minutes, with the following results:

Straight Line:
C63 in Auto Sport - left me standing, literally! didnt matter if we did a standing start or rolling start from about 40mph.
C63 in Manual - still left me standing, but not quite as much. The standing start was actually quite close for the first half a dozen seconds

Corners/Bends/Roundabouts:
More difficult to gauge differences as there wasnt lots of bends/roundabouts on our private road . whilst following the C63 (which seemed to be the norm for me) it had amazing grip and follow through in the bends, with minimal lean/imbalance.

We had to top playing as it was dark (thats my excuse). My clutch was red hot - literally - and I can still smell it now!!

We both managed approx 10.8 MPG, so fuel consumption was about the same, and we'd both started with approx half a tank of fuel. (This was purely coincidental, we are not quite that anal).

To add injury to insult, I'd not long had my car back from the stealers where it had been given a new lease of life. My car is currently stock.

Reading this with interest.... I'm currently in the market for an RS4 but if there is a 'massive' difference in a straight line between one and a c63 I might reconsider. I'm actually a little dissapointed as i was nearly sold on the idea until i read this. How many car lengths was it in a drag? I know speed isn't the be all and end all but would have thought the Rs4 would have put up a better fight as they are both very similar performers on paper?

Post by **SR71** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:13 am

I hazard a guess it would be somewhat different in the wet? Thats the quattro's joker card....

Also, I don't know about other owners, but I find the RS4 is hard to launch well...clever torque-limiting ECU aside, it just doesn't help that you only get partial throttle in 1,2,3 below ~5000rpm...

The thought does appeal to me though, especially if its just a simple tweak to get it to >520+hp...

Post by **P_G** » Mon May 11, 2009 11:54 am

If only they had made the C63 Touring when I was in the market for an RS4. Good write up reevesroadster. Still love my RS4

Post by **reevesroadster** » Mon May 11, 2009 6:47 pm

Well I wouldnt trade the RS4 for a C63 - having driven both and compared them together on the road.

Mine is an Avant, so arguably slightly slower than a saloon - but I did find a standing start harder due to the launch issue described above. It actually seems that the clutch hose issue is the problem with my clutch, and I didnt cook it after all.

To try and provide some comparable straight line performance, the C63 pulls away from the Audi like the Audi would pull from most other cars in this range. The rolling produced less of a difference, but the biggest difference in performance came when he C63 was in auto sport mode.

I have to add that I havent had mine on a rolling road so cant tell how many horses its producing, although it doesnt seem slow - and wasnt slow against djcevo's remapped RS4 saloon.

We may get a chance to compare them in the wet, but Im not praying for rain while we have this good weather. Wouldnt like to put a C63 touring round any corners in the wet!!

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