Ceramic Brakes, an option?

Post by **Janspeed** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 1:28 am

Dom81 wrote:Agree 100%

No comment

Post by **I-want-an-RS** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:21 am

From what I have seen/driven, the C.B. are as good as steel when cold but get better the hotter they get.

However this is only what I think and that could be a load of sh!t

Post by **Dom81** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:02 am

Janspeed wrote: Well fair enough your opinion is "valid" even though there are fellow members who have expressed their personal experiences (real ones) and I think that they were more than sufficient, again thank you for non-constructive blurt.

There's only one person in this thread (of 46 replies / 848 views) who thinks ceramics are necessary and justifiable for road use, yet you still think they are a good idea

I wasn't commenting on your driving, just the valid points Adam raised about the discs

Post by **Adam** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 10:42 am

and when I said "your" in my post I did not mean you personally Janspeed, just anyone experiencing regular and repeated emergency braking on the road (which I had hoped was obvious as you had not been describing this as "your" experience)

apologies if you read this as otherwise

PS take a chill pill why dontcha

Post by **LegalEagle** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:10 am

Janspeed wrote:
Adam wrote:
Janspeed wrote: On any motorway there is always some muppet who overtakes in a blind/suicidal way, and if you have ever driven in Southern Europe you will know that you NEED good braking power!
agreed however I am not convinced ceramic outperforms steels on the first 2 or 3 times this happens, ceramics have better fade resistance but if you are emergency braking continually for this reason them IMHO its your driving thats the problem, ie lack of anticipation / leaving sufficient space/time.

If they were offered for no or minimal cost I would spec them but the benefits for normal / road use are a) no brake dust and b) reduced unsprung weight and the ride/handling benefits that come with it, rather than material performance improvements.

IMHO
Well it is to good hear your opinion, well at least until you go on about my driving anyway!

As you obviously seem to have a lot of skill, this must stem from some great amount of experience in using ceramic brakes?

Well fair enough your opinion is "valid" even though there are fellow members who have expressed their personal experiences (real ones) and I think that they were more than sufficient, again thank you for non-constructive blurt.

Ta

You need to relax. Take the cat out and kick it, you'll feel better.

LE

Post by **RS4-Junkie** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 2:32 pm

Relax dudes

I just know the day-to-day situations from my former 2x E46 330 BMWs with steel brakes and the C.B. on the RS4. I never ever had any feeling in the AUDI, that brake performance is decreasing, even from Top Speed breaks above 160mph below 90mph in short because of ... ... *why do I have a mirror in my car when others can break* ... ... puppets ... ...
Doesn't everytime depend on yr driving experience, sometimes you are just too fast with that car. Thought it is built for that reason, to drive fast, isn't it?

My steel brakes had some bad issues, especially in wet & snowy conditions. Total lost of braking power for about 1,5secs!
C.B. doesnt have them at all and the last tyre change at 25TKM showed the discs are very well conditioned and the pads seemed really above 70%! And, hell yeah, the hotter they get, the better they work.

Post by **Rob1977** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 9:16 pm

I pray they do last a lot longer since the discs are over £2k each.

Post by **mixja** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 11:08 am

Nobody has mentioned the reduction in unsprung weight - probably 5kg or so per corner - this should noticeably improve handling and turn-in...

Post by **audijohn** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 1:08 pm

I dont need them for road use and if they are on your car RV will not improve one jot, so waste of money unless the car is tracked.

Post by **martinhans** » Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:22 pm

I got carbon ceramics and love them.

I didn't consider them a waste of money because they imrpove my personal enjoyment of the car and ownership satisfaction adn thats what its all about for me.

Post by **mixja** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 2:01 am

Actually the weight savings are a total of 20kg of unsprung weight according to the Audi German website - that's from the front of the car too...

I have them as an option for my order - apparently will be the only one with ceramics in little old New Zealand...

Post by **audijohn** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 9:31 am

mixja wrote:Actually the weight savings are a total of 20kg of unsprung weight according to the Audi German website - that's from the front of the car too...

I have them as an option for my order - apparently will be the only one with ceramics in little old New Zealand...

That amounts to 8 gallons of fuel then, which is sweet FA.

Post by **mixja** » Thu Nov 08, 2007 11:00 am

audijohn wrote:
mixja wrote:Actually the weight savings are a total of 20kg of unsprung weight according to the Audi German website - that's from the front of the car too...

I have them as an option for my order - apparently will be the only one with ceramics in little old New Zealand...
That amounts to 8 gallons of fuel then, which is sweet FA.

Yes but it is unsprung weight and relatively speaking is a significant reduction in unsprung weight, hence should noticeably improve handling, especially on the track.

Post by **Newdub** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:00 pm

If i had the extra money then i'd have them fitted. I haven't so i wont. Doesn't stop me wanting them though

Post by **SimonFV8** » Tue Nov 13, 2007 12:01 pm

Let me get this correct, ceramic brakes = clean wheels, no brake dust? Where can i get them from?????

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