Guide needed for the AMD 1,2,3

Post by **Pete.S** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 6:39 pm

@Jampo - what's ODBII? I have cruise and am thinking about mods, this APR trial sounds tempting.....

Any idea on cost too?

Post by **FrankC** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 7:54 pm

Think he means OBD.....on board diagnostic port.
Found under the rear ashtray in an RS4.....not sure where it is on the S4.
Cheers fc

Post by **JampoTT** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:09 pm

typo, sorry - OBD - on board diagnostics.

Its where you plug in a VAG-COM or dealer tool to check error codes etc.

Cost is roughly the same as AmD chip (circa £500 notes) and APR are pretty well respected - indeed, they are a bigger name than AmD in the USA I gather...

The UK main agent is Awesome GTI (who are based in Cheshire, I understand) but there are agents around the country including Star Performance in Scotland and theTTshop down in Bedford.

I've mailed off about a possible Group Buy (if the RR results are worth boasting about!) so we'll see...

Didn't get my car back today. See my other thread...

Post by **Scotty** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:30 pm

Dippy,

Firstly apologies if my post caused any confusion :

Have you got any graphs so I can see how peaky the peak is? I know the B5 S4's tune really well but I'm sure if they're really laggy or quite flat.

It was meant to say "... but I'm NOT sure ..."

Thanks for the info. An interesting comparison. Mine does start winding up at around 3-3.5k rpm and flies into the limiter (7200rpm )without it feeling like it's tailing off. This is actually where I do a lot of over taking. When other cars are pulling away from standstill or accelerating and they go to change gear I'm still flying so it exagerates the acceleration and give great over taking ability. It's also useful at roundabouts being able to accelerate and hit 30 or so in one gear.

You can draw your own conclusions from this!

With yours being quite a bit lighter I don't think I would.

It would be interesting to run them side by side though.

TinkyWinky,
Currently my recommendation would be wait and see. I've not really "driven" mine since AMD so hopefully I'll get a chance over Easter. If it's still as I explained I'll talk to AMD and see where we go. APR is interesting and I had a very good experience of their switchable software in my TT.

I probably have the only Hyperflow fitted to a UK B6 S4

Jampott - there's two reasons for this :

[1] I turned it down
[2] because it was a silly price for the gains. I may still get one myself and fit it DIY. This is how most are done in the US.

Post by **JampoTT** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:35 pm

A silly price to you, maybe... I got a fairer deal

Post by **Scotty** » Wed Mar 23, 2005 8:44 pm

I'll try "getting on my knees" next time. You've obviously had more practise down there.

Post by **Dippy** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 2:23 pm

Scotty,
Sounds like you're as suited for the B6 as I am not: Although fortunately my S4 is now tuned such that going up to the redline does not lose acceleration (as do B5's with OEM cats), I rarely drive in that region. I really love the torque of a turbo car so I spend most of the time in the plateau region.

Is the B5 really "quite a bit lighter" than the B6? I know that the engines weigh about the same (as Audi stated when the B6 was announced), so what has Audi done to the B6 to make it weigh significantly more?

TinkyWinky,
Yes I recommend AmD, but not without reservations. A few years ago, just after Scott (an ex-prizewinning Audi tech) joined and Geoff (their remapping guru) was still there, they were a great company who gave personal service and worked hard to please customers. Since then they have become even more successful and as a result their customer service is now variable. They also seem to have neglected their 'specialist' side and and focussing on 'off-the-shelf' tuning which is more profitable. I cannot blame them for this, but it is a shame. I still go to AmD for my servicing and if and when I need new turbos I will probably return to AmD for that too.

If you do go to AmD then I recommend that you make your expectations clear and ask them to state clearly to you what they are offering and how much it will cost. Then when they have done the work, get them to explain what they did, and check it for yourself. This might seem a bit picky, but sometimes you need to help people to help you.

Post by **Scotty** » Thu Mar 24, 2005 11:07 pm

Dippy wrote:Scotty,
Sounds like you're as suited for the B6 as I am not...

...Is the B5 really "quite a bit lighter" than the B6? I know that the engines weigh about the same (as Audi stated when the B6 was announced), so what has Audi done to the B6 to make it weigh significantly more?

It certainly suits me for now. After driving the TT, the S4 makes for easy, possibly even lazy driving. I don't have to work to keep it on the power. Maybe I'll crave a turbo again in the future, who knows?

With regards the weight although the engine is the same , I think they added more crash protection, features etc etc which all add to the weight. I don't actually know the difference in weight though!

Post by **jeffw** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:36 pm

B7 S4 saloon is 1660Kg
B5 S4 saloon is 1520 Kg

140Kg difference

Post by **Pete.S** » Fri Mar 25, 2005 2:51 pm

Is B7 same weight as B6?

Post by **Merlot** » Sun Mar 27, 2005 11:21 pm

Post by **Dippy** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 3:20 pm

Is it really a B7 designation or is it just a B6 facelift?

Post by **Pete.S** » Tue Mar 29, 2005 5:20 pm

I guess it depends on your interpretation of "facelift". Bar the steering wheel, the interior is identical I've been informed, but the exterior has been completely re-worked, and I'm sure I've read somewhere the panels are of different construction. Put it this way, it's a far more comprehensive "facelift" than the B5 experienced in '99

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