Full lock noise

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Full lock noise

Post by The_Kid » Mon Jan 04, 2010 8:46 pm

I've got an 06 S4, and just started to get a loud "rubbing" sound on full lock. Any ideas?

Many thanks!

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RE: Full lock noise

Post by BlingBling » Tue Jan 05, 2010 2:34 pm

A better description of the problem wouild help to provide possible causes.

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RE: Full lock noise

Post by xyber » Tue Jan 05, 2010 7:41 pm

Can you feel it through the steering wheel or peddles?

Does it seem to come from the wheel arch or further into the car?
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RE: Full lock noise

Post by The_Kid » Tue Jan 05, 2010 10:05 pm

Thanks for the replies. There is a slight feeling through the steering wheel, and it's quite a high pitched sound/whine and could even perhaps be described as a judder. But when i keep it on full lock it doesn't continue. And it doesn't happen all the time.

First snow of the winter today here, and S4 was excellent!

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RE: Full lock noise

Post by xyber » Tue Jan 05, 2010 11:15 pm

My first stop would be to check wheel studs are tight, check condition of pads and discs for wear or warping and check the wheel bearing for play or anything untoward.

Oh and the brake disc dust shields, check they aren't fouling anything, had that on a past car and took me ages to spot haha

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Post by elmo » Wed Jan 06, 2010 12:20 am

If it was me I would also check the power steering fluid levels, also put it on full lock and have a good look underneath to see if anything is loose and rubbing (don't wear your best Sunday suit for this !), it may be something simple like the inner wheel arch guard is loose.

Also check you front tyres are correctly sized (235/40 R18) and check for wear marks on the inner tyre wall.

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Post by The_Kid » Wed Jan 13, 2010 8:40 pm

Thanks for the replies. Will be doing the above!

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Post by thesyn » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:18 pm

I have the above noise/vibration on full lock on my 55 cabriolet, does it when you move off, feels as if the front tyres are skipping across the surface of the road then as if something in the front suspension finds it's correct position and everything settles. Checked the tracking then was convinced that it was a cv joint. I searched "cv joint" on this forum and found various relevant threads, (sorry don't know how to link) but it seems like a common phenomenon in S4s and RS4 and other 4WD cars with wide tyres. Audi have tried various fixes including cv joints and trailing arms etc but have not permanently fixed it, doesn't appear to cause any damage.
I now just ignore it and try to avoid full lock

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Post by xyber » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:30 pm

That sounds like your pulling away abit quickly on full lock. With so much power available, the rear wheels will just push the car forwards with the front wheels on full lock or turned a fair way in either direction and just scrubs the front tyres to bits.
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Post by thesyn » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:52 pm

Yes it could be that, I will try pulling off slower later and see.
Other possible causes posted have been slightly worn front tyres not keying into the tarmac on moving off.
Reassuringly (?) R8s are reported to do it also.

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Post by Vorsprung_Durch_Technik » Tue Feb 16, 2010 4:13 pm

My S4 does this but only in the wet. I posted a while back about it and Im sure its something to do with the Anti roll bar set up and the power to the front as mentioned here already. I know a guy that had a fulll suspension change under warranty on the N/S/F and it made no difference at all.

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Post by darlo968 » Tue Mar 02, 2010 7:31 pm

I was going to post a question asking about this kind of noise, since I have experienced it a few times in my new (to me) S4. It happens very subtley when pulling away with a lot of lock on (I wouldn't say full lock) but a similar sound/feeling also happens when I turn slowly and sharply onto a sloping driveway or forecourt entrance. I think in the latter case I may well be lifting a wheel and I thought it might be something to do with the Quattro diff(s) and/or the traction control. In the former case it certainly feels like the tyres are scrubbing a bit. I used to hear similar things about turning sharply in Porsches with LSDs.

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