B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
Morning all,
This topic seems to have been done over a few times but is very scattered over various topics. I hope to start a thread that is condensed and focused on what our options are to help me and others in the future.
My rear brakes need replacing as I need new pads and disks. Fortunately I own a facelift S4 with vented disks. This of course is the first upgrade option for those with pre-facelift cars.
Pre-facelift std = 245 x 12mm solid discs
Facelift std = 255 x 22mm vented discs
Options found so far as follows:
UPGRADE OPTIONS:
Option 1 - Thanks to UKS4APR1. MarkB will be fitting these soon to his car
http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ic&t=67872
For NON-FACELIFT CARS <1999.5
034 Motorsport B6/7 Rear disks w/ Spacers & refurb facelift callipers
http://www.034motorsport.com/product_in ... ts_id=1170
300x22mm Discs
OEM B5 S4 Facelift Callipers
Spacer to move Calliper out
Longer Brake Lines
FULL KIT for pre-facelift cars - £??? (US$800ish?) + pads + brake lines
FOR FACELIFT CARS >1999
034 Motorport B7 S4 upgrade Brackets alone - US$75.00
http://www.034motorsport.com/product_in ... ts_id=1146
B7 S4 300x22mm Discs - £90.00 (45x2) - Price by Alan@VAG-Parts
Brake lines - £50ish???
FULL KIT for facelift cars - £180ish + new pads if needed
Option 2:
FOR BOTH PRE & POST FACELIFT CARS
RS4 B7 Rear Brake Upgrade Kit - £750+VAT (Quoted by MRC)
324 x 22mm discs cross drilled & vented discs (£200.41+VAT each!!)
Larger callipers etc etc
Option 3:
FOR BOTH PRE & POST FACELIFT CARS
This gets to silly money. I will just refer to one option I have priced by MRC. This is for an equivalent setup to the R8
Brembo 4-pot rear callipers equivalent to R8
I am not sure on the disc information
£2500+VAT
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A lot of the information on this post has come through MRC or Alan at Vag parts. Alan is very knowledgeable & has been a great help.
According to Alan the B5 and most modern Audi's - the rear brakes only contribute 20% of the braking force to the car.
Based on all of this I think I am going to go with the B7 rear disc upgrade with the spacers from 034 motorsport. Seems best value for money. Going to try and get some cross drilled after market discs for cosmetic appeal.
Hope this helps anyone looking to do upgrades in the future.
This topic seems to have been done over a few times but is very scattered over various topics. I hope to start a thread that is condensed and focused on what our options are to help me and others in the future.
My rear brakes need replacing as I need new pads and disks. Fortunately I own a facelift S4 with vented disks. This of course is the first upgrade option for those with pre-facelift cars.
Pre-facelift std = 245 x 12mm solid discs
Facelift std = 255 x 22mm vented discs
Options found so far as follows:
UPGRADE OPTIONS:
Option 1 - Thanks to UKS4APR1. MarkB will be fitting these soon to his car
http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ic&t=67872
For NON-FACELIFT CARS <1999.5
034 Motorsport B6/7 Rear disks w/ Spacers & refurb facelift callipers
http://www.034motorsport.com/product_in ... ts_id=1170
300x22mm Discs
OEM B5 S4 Facelift Callipers
Spacer to move Calliper out
Longer Brake Lines
FULL KIT for pre-facelift cars - £??? (US$800ish?) + pads + brake lines
FOR FACELIFT CARS >1999
034 Motorport B7 S4 upgrade Brackets alone - US$75.00
http://www.034motorsport.com/product_in ... ts_id=1146
B7 S4 300x22mm Discs - £90.00 (45x2) - Price by Alan@VAG-Parts
Brake lines - £50ish???
FULL KIT for facelift cars - £180ish + new pads if needed
Option 2:
FOR BOTH PRE & POST FACELIFT CARS
RS4 B7 Rear Brake Upgrade Kit - £750+VAT (Quoted by MRC)
324 x 22mm discs cross drilled & vented discs (£200.41+VAT each!!)
Larger callipers etc etc
Option 3:
FOR BOTH PRE & POST FACELIFT CARS
This gets to silly money. I will just refer to one option I have priced by MRC. This is for an equivalent setup to the R8
Brembo 4-pot rear callipers equivalent to R8
I am not sure on the disc information
£2500+VAT
****************************************************
A lot of the information on this post has come through MRC or Alan at Vag parts. Alan is very knowledgeable & has been a great help.
According to Alan the B5 and most modern Audi's - the rear brakes only contribute 20% of the braking force to the car.
Based on all of this I think I am going to go with the B7 rear disc upgrade with the spacers from 034 motorsport. Seems best value for money. Going to try and get some cross drilled after market discs for cosmetic appeal.
Hope this helps anyone looking to do upgrades in the future.
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RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
Cheers ZeroK for taking the time to put this together. Just starting to look at rear upgrades now that my fronts are done as it feels as though there is nothing back there at the moment in comparison to the up front stoppers.
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RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
Just fitted a full Rear brake kit from a B5 RS4. works very well
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RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
I'm going the B7 S4 route with adapters for the standard calipers...
Mark
RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
you could also go the RS6 route..
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RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
How much are they Woody?? Does it have a hand brake calliper
Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
Isn't the RS6 setup hard to get to fit the rear of the B5's?s4woody wrote:you could also go the RS6 route..
Mark
Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
Apparently a pig to install & maintain. Doug has this on his car.MarkB wrote:Isn't the RS6 setup hard to get to fit the rear of the B5's?s4woody wrote:you could also go the RS6 route..
Facelift Imola S4 | Cust K04's, Tubular Manifolds, 3" DPs->2.75" Catback | FMIC | PSS9 Coilovers + ARB's | Brembo 8-Pots | SS + DTS | 5??HP/475lbs/ft | 3.06S FATS on S4 Box
Sold: A4 (B5) 2.8 Quattro | Ivory Pearl
Melted: Corrado - IHI 1.8t: 343BHP
Sold: A4 (B5) 2.8 Quattro | Ivory Pearl
Melted: Corrado - IHI 1.8t: 343BHP
RE: Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
i ditched the rs6 rear end and use b7 rs4 rears now.
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isn't that like saying does the RS6 turbos need a diff end on the exhaust to fit them..what a pain thats gonna be...Isn't the RS6 setup hard to get to fit the rear of the B5's?
who said its gonna be easy..
isn't this topic called S4 rear brake options... give me a break FFS...
@JDB i have disc's,calipers and carriers with new backing plates..your,s for £270+ postage...and yes the calipers take the handbrake cable...
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Re: RE: Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
Woody, calm down. MarkB was just commenting.s4woody wrote:isn't that like saying does the RS6 turbos need a diff end on the exhaust to fit them..what a pain thats gonna be...Isn't the RS6 setup hard to get to fit the rear of the B5's?
who said its gonna be easy..
isn't this topic called S4 rear brake options... give me a break FFS...
@JDB i have disc's,calipers and carriers with new backing plates..your,s for £270+ postage...and yes the calipers take the handbrake cable...
We're all sharing ideas here, loosen up.
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
The S8 option (280x22mm) is still there and just about manages with existing brake lines etc, so no removing the lines or bleeding the brakes.
The disks are cheaper as well for replacements and there are more options for the disks as they are VAG fronts used on other cars so there are plenty of non OEM aftermarket ones out there, slotted, drilled etc.
The caliper carriers are more expensive than the 034 adapters, but the result is stock audi with no adapters etc.
so there are pros and cons.
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1716040.phtml
The disks are cheaper as well for replacements and there are more options for the disks as they are VAG fronts used on other cars so there are plenty of non OEM aftermarket ones out there, slotted, drilled etc.
The caliper carriers are more expensive than the 034 adapters, but the result is stock audi with no adapters etc.
so there are pros and cons.
http://forums.audiworld.com/s4/msgs/1716040.phtml
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
i was calm when i wrote it and im still calm..when you've been here for a little longer than 122 posts you will find most things get shot down when they dont seem easy or you aint following a heard of sheep..
what do you think the RS in RS246 stands for...R Sheep 246. com on...
what do you think the RS in RS246 stands for...R Sheep 246. com on...
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
Having looked into this last year I thought the S8 rear setup was the most cost effective route for my purposes.
A year on I have no regrets and the pad wear appears to be normal.
A year on I have no regrets and the pad wear appears to be normal.
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: B5 S4 Rear Brake Upgrade Options
so many sheep on here I agree........ one mane keeps coming up.... and that is daddy sheep.
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