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I'm still wanting an s4 after i sell my cab and would like to know if in std form it would out perform some of the guys at work with their quick motors cuz it really peez me off seeing them fly by after work.

1, bmw z3 2.8 (this guy thinks he can blow anything)
2, bmw z4 3.0 (he's ok)
3, honda s2000(wan*er)
4, astra vrx(don't know him)
5, old G reg 911 turbo(tit)
6, audi tt 225 (power to weight against s4??)

quick and easy answer YES, but the TT will be a struggle as will the VRX and 911

I would of thought that most of them would be a struggle....The S2000 is 240BHP with less losses than a S4 for instances

Z4 is quickest out of that lot. S2000 not far behind then 911. Those will be tricky, others shouldn't be a problem inc. TT, unless it has been tweaked.

How bout with a stage 2 + remap exhaust and pre cats gutted?

slightly off topic that 1 saf..stage 2+remap,exhaust and gutted precats aint really standard..

I'll stand corrected, but I think you'll find that the 911 turbo in G reg form (3.3 rear wheel drive) has about 320bhp and nearly 500nm torque (about the same as a stage1 S4), is about 100kg lighter, and will do 0-62 in 5secs.

S4 in standard form will therefore struggle. I'm not sure about the rest, but I'd be surprised if the Z4 is the quickest (Kaygee) - I drove one before I bought the S4 and found it very flat and lacking in torque (that was the 3litre)

It all depends on what you mean by "beat" of course - 0-100 in a straight line? and they all have different handling characteristics

Thats good enough for me guys thanks! but will only have the chance to challenge on the way in to work as the car will be up to temp. although everyone rags theirs cold from work, i cound'nt afford to risk it.

this time next year 9k should get me a good 2000 model hopefully. but wont have change to spare for repair so i'll try and get one with warrenty.

You always need change for repair.

Except its not change. Its your bank account.

Apologies guys completely missed the turbo part on the 911, yes its fastest by a long way. Here are some 1/4 mile times for them. Remember stock euro S4 is 14.1.

911 turbo 3.6 13.4
911 turbo 3.3 13.6
Z4 is 14.1
S2000 is 14.2
TT is 14.7
Astra VXR 14.7
Z3 is 14.7

Thanks Kevin. (a G reg 911T will be the 964 3.3 engine)

I have to say that the Z4 is surprising (which I assume is for the 3litre engine)

Yes it should, however quite a few of those early 964s now have the 3.6 lumps in. I keep toying with the idea of buying one, but it would mean going on a diet!

I also know what you mean about the Z4. I was amazed when top gear said performance was on par with a Boxster S. Driven Z4 and Boxster, Boxster feels much faster.

i had a play today with a z4 and a honda s2000..laters 2 both of them..ok ok i,m not standard but the margin of defeat was big enough that if i was i,d ave still beat them..they gave me the thumbs up but there faces were down..

Surely it depends on whether the road was wet or not?

The old 911 turbo in the wet must be a fun but probably not that quick!

John

Agreed John.

IIRC, although the 964 first appeared in 4WD, I think the turbos were all RWD (first 4WD turbos to appear were on the 993 as standard, apart from GT2 of course!)