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Suspension change
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 9:07 am
by QuantumJohn
After looking at the photos and reading people views about lowering on AJSL's recent post about fitting B6 S4 wheels, I wanted to gain any advice about changing the suspension on my 2000 S4 avant.
I have some 18" RS6 wheels to fit and one of my rear shocks is bent (long story) so I need replace both the rears at least.
Is it worth looking at a full suspension kit considering the above?
I don't really want to change the ride comfort though.
Thanks,
John
RE: Suspension change
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 12:41 pm
by Dippy
John,
When I originally embarked on my mods, I wasn't going to bother with the suspension because I though the stock setup was good enough. However I was persuaded to go for the H&R coilovers.
Now although I don't have much experience with aftermarket suspension, I can certainly say that the H&R's transformed my car. Quite simply it has been the best mod I have done. Road-holding is excellent. Whenever I go fast round a tight corner and the car feels like it's on rails, and especially if a car behind is trying to keep up, I get a bigger buzz than my 560Nm gives!
But I will readily admit to the downsides:
1) Just as the car handles a bit like a go-kart, so is the ride! I can feel every bump in the road and if the road is rough then the car does "crash" over it. However personally I don't mind it, and neither do my wife and kids. And I have never had a passenger complain about the ride quality.
2) The suspension is seriously lowered, and this may (or may not) be a major contribution to the improved handling. This means that I do have to drive very slowly over speed-bumps.
3) This lowering was no problem when I had stock avus 7.5x17 wheels. However recently I fitted 8x18 RS4 replicas (with 225/40 tyres). They rub very slightly on full lock, but are in danger of rubbing more when I turn too fast over a speedbump or road gradient change. Most of the time this is not a problem, however I am considering having the suspension raised slightly at my next service.
RE: Suspension change
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:12 pm
by kwottro
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but while we're (sort of) on the subject - apart from coil-overs (or should that be as well as ?), what else can I do to my stock 01 avant to get less body-roll on fast curves ?
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:19 pm
by rsdreamer
Dippy, hi. I've heard some great things about the H & R's for the S4. AMD gave me a price on Wednesday just gone, 11th May, of £980.00 + the dreaded VAT.
How does this seem to you.
Regards,
RS Dreamer.
RE: Suspension change
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:32 pm
by DavidT
Dippy has got it spot on there. The difference between standard suspension and the H&R coilovers is night and day.
My car is lowered 45mm which is too much really I suppose, although I have got used to taking care when parking or with speed bumps etc.
I have never been bothered by the reduction in ride quality, most soft roaders ride much worse in my experience !
There are lowering springs available for much less than the price of a full (i.e. spring and damper) coilover setup.
Not meaning to hijack the thread, but while we're (sort of) on the subject - apart from coil-overs (or should that be as well as ?), what else can I do to my stock 01 avant to get less body-roll on fast curves ?
Not tried them, but I would think the H&R (or anyone elses upgrade) anti-roll bars front and rear make a big difference with standard suspension, keeping the car much flatter, without much of a ride compromise.
RE: Suspension change
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 3:57 pm
by NeilMc
rsdreamer, does that price from AMD include fitting?
RE: Suspension change
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 4:04 pm
by joss1
standard car, squat, dive, lurch, roll, float and vaugue over undulations, the full dictionary of bad handling.
H & R coilovers, place it exactly in a corner as you want it, inner, outer , most amazing ability to maintain momentum through the corners, Mine not too low (thanks VST), it's firm, but not hard. worth every penny.
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 5:49 pm
by rsdreamer
NeilMc, yes, this is a fitted price.
Have seen some Koni kits about, and have been talking to a chap in the USA about some Bilsteins that he's selling, but no feedback anywhere about anything other than the much rated H & R's.
Regards,
rs dreamer
Posted: Fri May 13, 2005 6:53 pm
by NeilMc
That's not bad. I was looking at getting some shipped over from the states (as the place I work ships 3 times weekly with fedex), and then getting someone in the workshop to fit them for me. It should cost around £800 to get them here, how much of a pain are they to fit?
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 12:46 am
by dazzer
Anyone near to Mansfield/Worksop area who has the H&R setup and could give me a demo in their motor. My motor was booked in this weekend just gone to have Koni adjustable dampers and Eibach springs fitted as I didn't want too harsh a ride. As it happens they got the wrong dampers so not fitted.
Anyway hearing all you geezers rave about the H&R setup maybe I should have a rethink.
Dazzer
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 8:30 am
by philipwalker
You should consider the H+R roll bars too, about £300.
I have both H+R coilovers and Roll bars on my S4 demo you are welcome to try.
The AMD price is a bit strong....!
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 1:08 pm
by Dippy
rsdreamer wrote:Dippy, hi. I've heard some great things about the H & R's for the S4. AMD gave me a price on Wednesday just gone, 11th May, of £980.00 + the dreaded VAT.
How does this seem to you.
Regards,
RS Dreamer.
I paid about that over 2 years ago. Makes sense to have 4 wheel alignment done at the same time so will be a bit more.
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 10:33 pm
by dazzer
Philip,
That's a long old way to go for a demo but thanks anyway. 'S4 Demo' - are you in the trade?
Dazzer
Posted: Mon May 16, 2005 11:21 pm
by mikeyquattro
You could go for RS4 suspension

Posted: Tue May 17, 2005 7:42 am
by KayGee
My tyres arrived today, so I'll post some pics of my Saloon on 18's and RS4 suspension this weekend.