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Suspension

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 9:24 am
by gavsteryoung
I have a quick suspension question.

I have just bought some B6 Alloys for my B5 S4. Now at the moment with the 17inch wheels the car does feel like it's crashing over potholes or uneven roads.

I know getting bigger wheels wont help, but does the H&R suspension setup help stop the crashing over these holes. Or is it always going to be?

I just happen to live in a semi-rural area, so a lot of the roads are crap!

cheers guys

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:30 pm
by Dippy
I've had H&R coilovers for a while now. I love the handling improvements, but 'crashing' is a good description of the ride quality on bad roads.

Recently I got some 18" wheels. It crashes a bit more now!

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 12:37 pm
by Nige_RS4
I had similar problems with my RS4 suspension and 18" RS4 reps, but since changing to 18" OZ superleggeras, it has all but dissappeared - never considered buying lightweight alloys previously, but it has changed the way the car 'feels' (for the better).

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 1:05 pm
by Prawn
Get the Stasis Motorsports mate, do it right first time.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 2:32 pm
by gavsteryoung
Does fitting the H&R reduce the cars tendancy to understeer on damp or wet roads..... my mate has a Mitsubishi Galant VR4 and the turn in on that is pretty hot and thats standard......

Prawn, I would but I looked at the cost..... ouch.... would have to sell the wife :wink:

Anyone got any good suppliers of Wheel Spacers, I gather I will require 30mm on the front and 50mm on the rear to accomodate the new S4 wheels......

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 3:36 pm
by DavidT
Does fitting the H&R reduce the cars tendancy to understeer on damp or wet roads..... my mate has a Mitsubishi Galant VR4 and the turn in on that is pretty hot and thats standard......
It does to an significant extent, yes. I'd say try and drive one which is so equipped.
Anyone got any good suppliers of Wheel Spacers, I gather I will require 30mm on the front and 50mm on the rear to accomodate the new S4 wheels......
Go for MTM or Abt hub centric ones.

I hope you are wrong with the sizes, as they will have your wheels way out of the arches. I'm pretty sure Carps did it with 3mm or so front and rear. Do a search for the thread B6 S4 wheels in this forum.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 4:24 pm
by Prawn
gavsteryoung wrote: Prawn, I would but I looked at the cost..... ouch.... would have to sell the wife :wink:
Wish I could get that much for the wife !

Seriousley though, I found the H&R to be 'crashy' over potholes etc and I wanted more range of adjustment between hard and soft settings, however they were 10 times better than the std suspension.

There is the stasis tracksports, you still get custom valving and you can choose your spring rates.

Posted: Tue Oct 19, 2004 5:31 pm
by philipwalker
Try my S4 demo with H+R coilovers, H+R roll bars and 18" OZ Superleggeras fine on the bumpy stuff.....

Try before you buy if you wish..........

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:27 am
by gavsteryoung
Yes my bad it should be 3mm and 5mm as this post
http://www.rs246.com/index.php?name=PNp ... ghlight=b6

Phil, thanks for the offer of try before you buy but I think it maybe a little far for me to travel.

It hard enough to find someone in the Kent area with an S4 anyway! Let alone modified one!

Phil, can you supply good name spacers?

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 9:58 am
by Verruckt
Prawn wrote:Get the Stasis Motorsports mate, do it right first time.
Agreed. I love my Track Sports and I imagine the Motorsports would be even better. :lol:

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 12:40 pm
by Dippy
Prawn wrote: Seriousley though, I found the H&R to be 'crashy' over potholes etc and I wanted more range of adjustment between hard and soft settings, however they were 10 times better than the std suspension.
Agreed, the H&Rs transform the handling.

Regarding the 'crashing', don't forget it really does depend on the sort of roads you drive on. For me I guess 80% of the time it's not a problem, so for the other 20% of roads I tolerate it.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 4:30 pm
by philipwalker
Kent to Pembrokeshire hmm....A fair way !!

I generaly stock two types:
H+R for the adaptor type spacers, this enables you the fit Porsche wheels to various cars and I use Eibach for the track widening spacers.
I am faitly sure Eibach range is from 5mm up to 30mm with the wider spacers longer bolts are supplied.

Posted: Wed Oct 20, 2004 5:01 pm
by DavidT
I am faitly sure Eibach range is from 5mm up to 30mm with the wider spacers longer bolts are supplied.
How much for a full set of 5mm Eibach spacers including longer nuts (inc locking) please Philip ?

PM me if you prefer.


David

Posted: Thu Oct 21, 2004 10:52 am
by philipwalker
Davit you have a pm......Some info for the forum....

Eibach supply spacers at 5mm these are £25 a pair, I am fairly sure you will not need to change the bolts with the 5mm spacer when running standard wheels.
The next size spacer Eibach do is 8mm (£28 a pair) these you will probably need longer bolts, in this instance

I supply either a OZ or BBS fitting kit. These kits contain longer bolts The BBS kit has a locking wheel bolt inc
The OZ kit is £25 the BBS is £45