S4 vs M3

Post by **SimonS4MTM** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:16 pm

And another spanner, I thought the E36 evo had 320bhp.

Anyway, I am bored of all this BMW talk now. The fact remains Audi's will always be better in all respects, end of!

Post by **CliveH** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 4:32 pm

Agreed!

Meeting closed.

Post by **harry** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 5:26 pm

set to reconvene the 42th of julember 2000&wotsit

Post by **flashyg** » Wed Jun 14, 2006 11:21 pm

New m3 will be here then eh! Cant wait...

Post by **ZeroK66** » Thu Jun 15, 2006 10:58 am

I did say 340ish as I was not sure

But yes - there is a reason I drive an S4 and not an M3 - an equiv M3 would have been cheaper than my S4 - yet I still chose the S4

Post by **tartan_rob** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 5:28 pm

My stage 1 S4 will eat an E46 M3 (and did) in real world driving, he even told me that he was impressed and I quote "....there is not much thats gets away from this car" - referring to his M3. My Std S4 comfortably muched a 280bhp E36 3.0 in every gear in France a few years ago, myself and mate side by side on the continent in various gears....

Post by **s4woody** » Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:57 pm

thanks T Rob that was my point..2

Post by **saf** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:42 am

Standard S4 and Standard E36?

Whats the scenario there.

Reading this most, theres seems to be 2 different opinions.

I was told standard M3 E36 has 321 BHP. and with two wheel drive and no loos of power to distribution of 4 wheels, should leave a standard S4 behind right?

Post by **KayGee** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 8:25 am

e36 M3 is 3.0 286Bhp, 14.3 1/4 mile.
M3 evo is 3.2 litre and 321 bhp and 14 dead for 1/4 mile.

Std S4 is 14.3 1/4 mile. Stage 1 should knock that down to mid to high 13s. Stage 2 should be low to mid 13s and stage 3 should be high 12s.

Post by **Paulm** » Sat Jun 17, 2006 1:03 pm

and because we live in GB where it rains evey other day

M3 1/4 mile 2 minutes

S4 just the same

Post by **ZeroK66** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 10:34 am

Well at some stage on an airstrip I came across an M3 E46.

A few tries and I had the following results:

80 onwards I pulled about a cars length, come 120-130 he gained a bit
Again about 80 onwards as I got towards the top of 5th gear he started gaining, once I hit 6th we sat again
A final try similar to above till I was in 6th and I started pulling on him again, by 140 I was realing him in.

I am now confident from a standing start I should be able to hold back an M3 from standing start - 150!

I am Stage 2+ with an MTM chip, Miltek catback & gutted pre-cats.

Finally have a true real world representation of my cars ability - NICE!

Post by **s4-99** » Mon Jul 03, 2006 11:39 pm

Nice results Zero, good to know as i have a similar set up to you.

Post by **KayGee** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 1:22 am

You didn't believe me and dippy? We're hurt.

Post by **ZeroK66** » Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:23 am

ZeroK66 wrote:Well at some stage on an airstrip I came across an M3 E46.

A few tries and I had the following results:

80 onwards I pulled about a cars length, come 120-130 he gained a bit
Again about 80 onwards as I got towards the top of 5th gear he started gaining, once I hit 6th we sat again
A final try similar to above till I was in 6th and I started pulling on him again, by 140 I was realing him in.

Gawd my english was terrible... try again...

1. Rolling start from 80 I pulled a car length he started to gain on me come 120-130ish - we braked.
2. Rolling start from 80 (he got the jump) we sat even till I got to the top of 5th gear... he gained on me till I hit 6th we then sat even - 135-140 we braked.
3. Rolling start from 80 (me behind - he got the jump) he pulled gently till I hit 6th and I then realed him in

I think it is safe to say - if you drive the car in the torque band the S4 certainly has the edge.

My car was fully loaded with one passenger & boot full of bags, bedding etc - car with LOADS of audio equipment & dynamat. I was also running on BP Ultimate which (IMO) is one of the worst fuels to use.

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