MRC500 - Let the work begin

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Post by smurfbus » Wed Nov 22, 2006 8:28 pm

Good luck with your project.

I would also use the rs4 intake parts if you got those special stainles turbopipes too.

I think you will enjoy the performance you get and remember that rs4 weights more so you will be faster with S4 sedan than the same powered RS4. the RS4 has better gear ratios but high end is better with S4 sedan.

saf: I dont think 'definately' is the correct word for 500hp, IMO.
I got very close to 500hp with stock EM ,stock y-pipe and 3 years with stock TBB too. sub 3 sec fats too in cold atmo with PJ K04s and RS4 ICs.

Now that I have MRCs tubulars and those bling turbo pipes plus RS4 heads I think I can get over 500hp if all goes well.

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Post by whisky180 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 9:09 pm

ZeroK66 wrote:5-figure bill is only a possibility which includes many things which are not related to this conversion, so can we steer away from this? I think the conversion including fitting for the MRC500 would be up to half what I may end up spending. I have taken the opportunity to have a lot more work done while the motor is out - preventative rather than necessary. Things like Power steering pump etc :)

Can we focus on power and fun rather than money and positive conversation rather than negative? At the end of this I would have spent (ON MRC500) not a lot more than those who have just done standard K04 conversions step by step.

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Post by ZeroK66 » Wed Nov 22, 2006 10:12 pm

Thanks guys... I am smiling now! :)
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Post by smurfbus » Thu Nov 23, 2006 10:27 am

yeah, 2nd and 3rd gears are pretty cracy : )

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Post by david7m » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:43 am

whisky180 wrote:
ZeroK66 wrote:5-figure bill is only a possibility which includes many things which are not related to this conversion, so can we steer away from this? I think the conversion including fitting for the MRC500 would be up to half what I may end up spending. I have taken the opportunity to have a lot more work done while the motor is out - preventative rather than necessary. Things like Power steering pump etc :)

Can we focus on power and fun rather than money and positive conversation rather than negative? At the end of this I would have spent (ON MRC500) not a lot more than those who have just done standard K04 conversions step by step.

Cheers,
i have had from mrc their hybrid turbo conversion, i understood full well i would'nt see any cash back on resale and the only reason i did it was for the power. and boy i love it don't regret it for one minute, grin factor is enormous. so zero go for it and i am damn sure you will love it regards tony
Thats more like it, something positive :thumb:

Good luck and fair play for the investment!

Dave

PS I kinda wish mine would pop so I can 'justify' some more grunt :twisted:
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Post by david7m » Thu Nov 23, 2006 11:46 am

Just clicked on the S3 link, what will this cost? What's a 'decent' exhaust?

(sorry to divert from S4)

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Post by tartan_rob » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:55 pm

I really hope it works for you mate, I really do. having had a similiar conversion, got the t-shirt, worn it and sold it on I feel quite comfortable discussing this openly..

Some questions I would have asked myself beforehand and in fairness, you probably have:

1) Is the conversion really worth the money to you?
2) You WILL NOT get the money back when you sell the car, even stripping the parts off and restoring to stock will cost you a min of £2k, then who will buy the parts? Even the used turbo's will be worth approx £100 a set (having sold 2 sets of used K03's and get less than £100 on each occasion)
3) Have you checked insurance, you are getting on for double the power, they MAY not be happy?
4) You know that if the car is nicked or worse, you'll not get the money back..
5) Selling such a car on with the age and mileage etc is very hard with a very limited market and very dis-heartening...I know.
6) You need to hope that you have no issues with timing etc Its not quite as easy as bolt it on and everything will work as planned, timing cannot always be pulled back sufficiently, resulting in loss of power
7) I'm not sure what you are having done extra to the raw power upgrade, but you'll have to upgrade lights, suspension and cooling etc in order that it'll handle the power in a safe manner. Your insurance company should be requesting this anyway.
8) Is this really what you want? In reality I wanted a newer car. The conversion simply prolonged my want of something newer...very expensive mistake....5 figures is a decent deposit for bricks and mortar.

Don't get me wrong, I loved my beast and indeed she is easily the most fun and best car I have ever had bar none and MRC will do a great job. But it is a substantial investment you are making and in my case, one that I should perhaps not have made. Better to start off with that you really want and in your case this may be it...but.............and that is the problem, there is a 'but'. If I had my time over, I would not do it again...stage1 remap only from here on in.

Like I said though, I hope it works for you and you have many long and happy years of ownership...and if one day we ever meet in my slower car - take pitty on me..
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Post by S2tuner » Thu Nov 23, 2006 12:58 pm

Dave, the S3 kit costs 3520+fitting(approx 8 hours at 53 per hour)+650remap+200 for a set of higher flow injectors. Total=4794-ish plus a decent exhaust, which can be a Milltek or anything else too as long as it flows better than standard. This will give you a decent 340-350 BHP and lots of torque.

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Post by S2tuner » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:05 pm

Agreed with Rob's comments on the investment, heck, I've spent more than any of you guys on my car and it's still just a 110k mile old pre-facelift S4 but I love every second I spend in it, that adrenalin rush I get at WOT, especially seeing how 5th gear pulls hard into the limiter (168mph GPS) just can't take the grin off my face. Now on the other hand, as many people know, my car is also our business' "showroom" to show our knowledge and skills, so in those terms of "investment", I might see something back from it one way or the other...

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Post by tartan_rob » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:06 pm

S2tuner wrote:Dave, the S3 kit costs 3520+fitting(approx 8 hours at 53 per hour)+650remap+200 for a set of higher flow injectors. Total=4794-ish plus a decent exhaust, which can be a Milltek or anything else too as long as it flows better than standard. This will give you a decent 340-350 BHP and lots of torque.

Sorry for the threadjack Leon ;)

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Post by S2tuner » Thu Nov 23, 2006 1:34 pm

Since fitting the 19" BBS CH's, I'd say at least another 50 BHP for this engine...

Now for the next one..... :roll: :roll: :roll: 650 is the minimum goal....

Oh my, need to do more and more remaps....
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Post by SimonS4MTM » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:17 pm

Where will it end Mihnea?
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Post by S2tuner » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:26 pm

Honestly Simon, I don't know. I want as much as is possible/reliable for a street car that will still be used everyday. So 650-700 might be the limit, because after that it might well become undriveable and too laggy...

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Post by Nige_RS4 » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:27 pm

This will give you a decent 340-350 BHP and lots of torque.
I think Minhea means 440 - 450bhp! I would want more than 30 bhp over a stage 1 remap for £5k!
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Post by S2tuner » Thu Nov 23, 2006 2:34 pm

Remember we're talking about a 1.8T here, and even when pushed hard, a stage 1+++ remap on an S3 will only go to 270-ish and that's about it.

Nige_RS4 wrote:
This will give you a decent 340-350 BHP and lots of torque.
I think Minhea means 440 - 450bhp! I would want more than 30 bhp over a stage 1 remap for £5k!

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