Facelift Vs Pre-facelift

Post by **DavidT** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 9:09 am

No, I think that is correct, 2001 model year? with 4 lamda sensors, Dippy's is one of those.

Post by **Nige_RS4** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:23 am

And the last of the S4's had the Hitachi MAF.

Post by **Nige_RS4** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 10:31 am

OK, I had a mid-facelift S4 and it had all the external and internal facelift updates with the exception of the digital clock, which AFAIK means it didn't have the CAN-bus. Whilst this wasn't a problem for me, if you plan on installing a later RNS-D or E TFT screen, then it is a lot easier if you buy a car that already has the CAN-bus.

There are varying reports on whether it had the later oil lines (I think this was only post-2000 cars anyway) and updated manifolds (I believe it did).

ESP was an option on my car, but came as standard for later models.

I also have different dates for the mid-facelift - I thought they were from april to october/november 99??

HTH

Post by **Dippy** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:15 pm

Surely the f-hose deletion was not done to all facelift cars?
Also I think the turbo improvement was ONLY to the oil lines, not the turbos themselves.

As well as the Hitachi MAF and the 4 lamda's, the whole engine is a revised version to meet newer EU emission rules.

Post by **Nige_RS4** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 12:30 pm

Surely the f-hose deletion was not done to all facelift cars?

Nope, someone picked it up already, only the last of the S4's had it (or didn't have it)

Also I think the turbo improvement was ONLY to the oil lines, not the turbos themselves.

Agreed

Post by **SimonS4MTM** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:45 pm

Facelift cars have problems with the number plate surround corroding, only drawback that i can see.

Post by **DavidT** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 1:48 pm

So Adam, do you want to collate all this good info into a list divided into:

Pre-Facelift

Mid-Facelift

Post-Facelist

2001

Me old china please ?

Post by **AdamS4** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:05 pm

Will do David.... As soon as i get a moment free at work.... Been fecking busy here today

Post by **DavidT** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:18 pm

AdamS4 wrote:Will do David.... As soon as i get a moment free at work.... Been fecking busy here today

Thank you, no great rush. I'll make it sticky

Post by **AdamS4** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 3:58 pm

Hows this ???

Pre-Facelift
Flush fit door handles
Square side repeaters
Separate headlights and front indicators
Windscreen washers on bonnet
Analogue clock

Mid-Facelift
Once Piece Headlights and Indicators (not two separate units)
Rectangular side repeaters
Analogue clock
Air vent location lights
Double height symphony radio
Auto dip interior rear mirror
New interior light concept
Soft touch opening boot
New bootlid outline
Boot lock with cover
Reversing lights to the lower half of the rear cluster
Reshaped front and rear bumpers
Polished body-post trims
Curved door handles
Aluminum door-sill trim strips
Wider side protection moulding
Flush mounted headlight washers
New grille outline
Concealed windscreen washer jets (Not on bonnet)
New wiper arms
S4 badge moved from the top lip of the boot to next to the number plate
Bigger Turbo oil lines
Exhaust manifold was modified
Cover over battery compartment
Front & rear brake setups
Colour matched interior components
Heated seats switches move from high up to low down
AC controls different
Pushbuttons in dash are wide rather than tall
Audi ESP

Post-Facelist
High level brake light carpeted
Digital clock with date on the Dash
CAN-bus

2001
F-pipe was removed
Hitachi MAF
Different S4 badge on the back and dash
4 lambda Sensors

Post by **SimonS4MTM** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:50 pm

A few corrections

Pre-facelift

Plastic number plate suround
Solid rear discs

Mid-face lift

Symphony was an option, not standard
Auto dip mirror as an option on all models
Aluminum door-sill trim strips on all models
Only on RS4
New grille outline same on all models

Post by **Nige_RS4** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 4:59 pm

Few more ...

Heated seats was an option on all cars
Same for ESP, but don't think it was available on pre-facelift cars?
Also, front calipers/pads were different on some mid and post-facelift cars!
Recaros were an option for mid-facelift onwards AFAIK.

Typo on post facelist!

Post by **SimonS4MTM** » Wed Jun 27, 2007 5:01 pm

Also,

I think satnav was not an option on pre-facelift,

above should read - Flush mounted headlight washers Only on RS4

Post by **Dippy** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:27 pm

I guess that you're only discussing UK cars? There were other options too, but only for personal imports:

Multifunction steering wheel
Rear acoustic parking sensors

Post by **MCB** » Thu Jun 28, 2007 1:34 pm

Excellent job Adam (+ revisions)

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