Cracked rear subframe ........prob gonna seriously cost!!!

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Cracked rear subframe ........prob gonna seriously cost!!!

Post by Russboy » Fri Jun 19, 2009 10:40 am

Not sure for the exact terminology but calling it a rear sub frame for now. It’s cracked all over the place on both sides.

Basically my mate suspects that the H&R anti roll bar has prob stressed the rear sub frame and as such I now need a new one!! There are two options get a new/second hand one and fit it, or strip this one out, weld it and put it back in.

Which ever option I am forced to choose we will weld a cross section or two to strengthen it up.

Anyone know if it's a common prob?

What models of Audi's will share the same part so that I can broaden my search?

What am I likely to pay for a new one from Audi? (My mate works for Croydon Audi so is researching this for me)

Here’s the pics:

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Any info/advice most welcome

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RE: Cracked rear subframe ........prob gonna seriously cost!

Post by Blue_Thunder » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:37 am

Yes, this is a well documented fault Russ. MRC sell a strengthening bracket now because they'd seen so many cars with cracked subframes. From the looks of those pics, you might be better off getting a 2nd hand unit rather than repairing that.

A few people have tried contacting H&R about it, but they've apparently stuck their heads in the sand. Knob jockeys!

Hotchkis and Neuspeed ARBS come with integrated subframe support brackets. They've obviously realised that the subframe is a weak point. Makes you wonder why H&R haven't picked up on it.

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RE: Cracked rear subframe ........prob gonna seriously cost!

Post by Russboy » Fri Jun 19, 2009 11:51 am

Any idea what sort of £££ i'm looking at for a new subframe?
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RE: Cracked rear subframe ........prob gonna seriously cost!

Post by Mikey-S » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:42 pm

Never heard of one cracking there! Looks dangerous being the wishbone locating bolt. I'd get that changed ASAP, wouldn't even consider welding it.

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Post by GDS968 » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:47 pm

Mine went there and I coughed up and bought a new one from Vagparts!

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Post by grizz » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:52 pm

I've done several like that . I've replaced them with good second hand units .
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Post by Mikey-S » Fri Jun 19, 2009 8:55 pm

Didn't realise it was the ARB bracket, looked like the wishbone mount at first glance!

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Post by aikihook » Sat Jul 11, 2009 7:40 pm

Mine was completely broken on one side - just hangling loose torn right through the rear toe fixing point.
Managed to weld it though; fortunately being the offside was quite easy to get to without taking the sub-frame off.

Then I took it to MRC pretty sharpest to fit the stregthening brackets - they thought my welding was ok.
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Post by aikihook » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:20 pm

Oh - and here are the pics
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and completely welded
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Toe repaired
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Post by s4woody » Sat Jul 11, 2009 8:49 pm

Russ i've moved into a bigger better workshop..give me a call and i'll sort that for you..woody
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Post by Russboy » Sun Jul 12, 2009 11:23 am

Woody, PM coming at ya!
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