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Detailing question
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 3:26 pm
by ARSEY4
Does a claybar remove light polishing swirls? If not what should be used?
I use zymol on the car quite regularly but I wouldnt mind having a day where I do the job from scratch again.
RE: Detailing question
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:01 pm
by johneroberts
Claybars are great for removing any gritty deposits , i think your going to have to get a mop on swirls
jr
RE: Detailing question
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:15 pm
by SimonFV8
If you use Zymol, start with washing in Clear autobathe then Lehm Klay 3 with Lube, this will get rid of all old polish and marks in the paint etc. Then go over the car with HD Cleanse then hand apply the wax. I use Glasur as it suits the colour of my car. Then when you wash it in the future use the Clear and then Field Glaze
Just remember always do everything in straight lines not circles and all should be ok!
Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:52 pm
by Dom81
SimonFV8 wrote:If you use Zymol, start with washing in Clear autobathe then Lehm Klay 3 with Lube, this will get rid of all old polish and marks in the paint etc. Then go over the car with HD Cleanse then hand apply the wax. I use Glasur as it suits the colour of my car. Then when you wash it in the future use the Clear and then Field Glaze
...puts me to shame. Two capfuls of Auto Glym, and a leather if it's not raining!
RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:34 pm
by rAudiguy
start with washing in Clear autobathe then Lehm Klay 3 with Lube
tell us more about this lube

RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:37 pm
by 4wheeldrift
You could also try using Swissol medium cleaner fluid. Does the same job as HD clense but more effective. You may have to get a detailer round to machine polish the swirls out. I recently used Glyn O'Donnell of
www.elitedetailer.co.uk His work is very good.
RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 9:27 am
by ARSEY4
Thanks guys, all is fine, i just have a very faint one on the roof which will come out with scatchex, but i thought id do the whole car and do it properly. When I picked the car up from new in April I hd cleansed it and zymoled it and now I just wash with zymol autobathe (sheepskin mit, 2 buckets etc). I then make a point of zymolling the front spoiler, bonnet and wings purely so the pesky fliescant get a good enough grip.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 3:17 pm
by ChrisRS4
4wheeldrift wrote:Does the same job as HD clense but more effective.
Highly debatable. Personally I find that swissol/swissvax products do not go on as well as Zymol, and are harder to remove and buff off.
Neither will remove swirl marks properly, for that you'll need a machine polisher and someone that can use one.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 4:54 pm
by 4wheeldrift
ChrisRS4 wrote:4wheeldrift wrote:Does the same job as HD clense but more effective.
Highly debatable. Personally I find that swissol/swissvax products do not go on as well as Zymol, and are harder to remove and buff off.
Neither will remove swirl marks properly, for that you'll need a machine polisher and someone that can use one.
Glyn O'Donnell of Elitedetailer treated both my cars last week. He confirmed that the Swissol Meduim is a stronger solution an HD Clense. In addition, he also commented that the Swissol clensing products a much easier to work with than Zymol!
Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 8:10 am
by ChrisRS4
4wheeldrift wrote:ChrisRS4 wrote:4wheeldrift wrote:Does the same job as HD clense but more effective.
Highly debatable. Personally I find that swissol/swissvax products do not go on as well as Zymol, and are harder to remove and buff off.
Neither will remove swirl marks properly, for that you'll need a machine polisher and someone that can use one.
Glyn O'Donnell of Elitedetailer treated both my cars last week. He confirmed that the Swissol Meduim is a stronger solution an HD Clense. In addition, he also commented that the Swissol clensing products a much easier to work with than Zymol!
Like I said, its debatable! And its one of those debates that will continue through the world of detailing for a long time. I have serveral £ks of Swissol in my garage and I think its not that good. My cars get Zymol detailed once a month now. A detailer will always recommend the products he's using. Best try them yourself and gain your own opinion.
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:50 pm
by SLC Detailing
I think the swissol and Zymol are both excellent products. But i believe its the detailer themself that really gets the results.Who details your car Chris? Is it Clark from polished bliss?
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:08 pm
by jac-in-a-box
stevieyid wrote:I think the swissol and Zymol are both excellent products. But i believe its the detailer themself that really gets the results.Who details your car Chris? Is it Clark from polished bliss?
A small element of truth there Stevie
As with all products, their final result is only as good as the preperation - the wax contributes to "a small cherry on the cake"!
Swissvax v Zymol; the arguments will never end. Both are fine products and with a wax from each, priced at a similar point, no-one will ever be able to pick out what wax is what....providing it's applied to a well prepared surface.
I use both in a pro-capacity and both require different techniques.
However, I do have a preference for one over another
Detailed once a month? Hmm....
A little excessive IMO.
If a premium quality wax has been applied, it'll need no more than regular and simple washing/maintenance work to keep it looking good for at least 3 months.
Unless, of course, this is what you mean?
Dave
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:09 pm
by jac-in-a-box
stevieyid wrote:I think the swissol and Zymol are both excellent products. But i believe its the detailer themself that really gets the results.Who details your car Chris? Is it Clark from polished bliss?
A small element of truth there Stevie
As with all products, their final result is only as good as the preperation - the wax contributes to "a small cherry on the cake"!
Swissvax v Zymol; the arguments will never end. Both are fine products and with a wax from each, priced at a similar point, no-one will ever be able to pick out what wax is what....providing it's applied to a well prepared surface.
I use both in a pro-capacity and both require different techniques.
However, I do have a preference for one over another
Detailed once a month? Hmm....
A little excessive IMO.
If a premium quality wax has been applied, it'll need no more than regular and simple washing/maintenance work to keep it looking good for at least 3 months.
Unless, of course, this is what you mean?
Dave
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 11:26 pm
by ChrisRS4
stevieyid wrote:I think the swissol and Zymol are both excellent products. But i believe its the detailer themself that really gets the results.Who details your car Chris? Is it Clark from polished bliss?
Yes, its Clark. Fortunately/unfortunately I live about five miles from Polished Bliss. I have a maintenance contract with them so the car gets a monthly coat of Vintage wax. I was up to about seven coats this year on the S3 before switching the contract over to the RS4. The depth in colour is amazing once you get a few coats on. Hard to describe but much deeper with the each coat, the car just looked bluer.
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Detailing question
Posted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 10:48 am
by SLC Detailing
I thought it was mate seen some pics of your S3 and the results were superb. They certainly know there stuff.