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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:14 am

chunky79 wrote:
Reflect Russ wrote:Its pH neutral mate and 10 minutes is a decent enough amount of time TBH....I remove it after 5 or so minutes so 10 mate is ample...how did you get on with it....
I tried the snow foam yesterday, left it 10 mins but had pretty dried up thanks to the wind. Didn't foam any where near as much as I thought it would be cleaned great. I tried a stronger mix just for fun after and it got a lot thicker, about 60ml in the bottle.
Glass cleaner was great. Might get some of your sealent, I'm using Blackfire All finish at the moment.
it doesnt really give a thick shaving foam look because it doesnt need it...nor does any foam tbh as its just a waste of product....the pic above is pretty much all you need as it cleans best when its not being dragged down by excess foam....

Also even if it does dry on the product is still active and pH neutral....all it needs is activating once you PW it off....it is a massive step forward in not only foam but also many other products....it can be broken down to around 2000-1 if need be and will still clean the likes of leather and plastics....

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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:17 am

Amar wrote:
Reflect Russ wrote:How much do you want.... :bigblink:

Keep it sensible....

an interior and exterior winter prep would be £195 for an RS4-6 whether Avant or not....

Obviously travel isnt included in that unless you are within a 50 mile radius....

By the way has yours got natural hide finish...Aniline leather which is unprotected...if so its a nightmare to clean without moving the dye around....
I'd want a correction detail, I have an alacantara interior. Only really need the exterior doing. It will be doing 2-3k miles a year from Dec onwards so I'm looking to get it done then when it isn't in daily use.
Alcantra can be tricky to clean safely but is stunning when it feels new as well as looking it....where abouts are you....

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Re: New Brand Products

Post by P_G » Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:21 am

PhilT wrote:R1NE FOAM!!
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That's what mine looked like for a couple of minutes, my only slight criticism is that it does not have as much dwell time as Autobrite Magifoam but I have to play around with the concentrations to see what works. Cleaning power was decent but on thicker grime areas it didn't remove as much as I had hoped as there was still a visible traffic film which on a Suzuka Grey car is more apparent than I would imagine on my former car. Like said I'll give it time and see whether I can find an optimum concentration before making a proper assessment. 11/10 for citrus smell, my neighbours could smell it in their house.

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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:13 am

the difference with this and magifoam is that this doesnt takes a week to remove from your drive :jump: ....seriously though as i said above its not really a thick foam that is required and dwell time is as long as you like as its still actively working even if its dried on the car....the trouble with thick foams is that the weight drags the rest of the product on the floor...which is visible waste....you dont need to do that with this....

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Post by chunky79 » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:25 am

Russ, would you say its better to apply to a dry car or wet? I usually give mine a rinse first. Also, does the foam work differently with hot water? I run my pressure washer off a hot water tap.
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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Tue Nov 20, 2012 10:44 am

Always a dry car mate....if the surface is wet the foam will have nothing to grip to....hot water or cold water mate but I have found and this is my opinion that cold gives the better results for foaming....I do though sometimes fill the foam bottle with hot water which then blends with the cold through the lance....truth be told though the optimum temperature is around 37-40 degrees....

The thing is different flow rates of different pressure washers will affect the thickness as will water hardness....no one will ever get the exact same results but the good thing with R-1NE is its not just a foam....you can use it for what ever you like...if you put around 10ml in a half litre bottle try cleaning leather with it and see what you get....it is the breakthru product that IMO no one can or has matched as yet....

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Re: New Brand Products

Post by chunky79 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 3:08 pm

Tried this again today Russ with cold water, didn't seem to move anything at all. That was with the car dry (just dew on it) and just cold water. Left it on for 25mins and washed off with hot water through the pressure washer.
I then tried it with a small mix of magifoam using hot water in the bottle and applying it, a lot better but still left some film. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong.
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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:14 pm

What lance are you using is a a karcher one as i seem to remember someone asking whether it would be any good....the thing is if it is these standard lances are really no better than a pre spray through a pressure sprayer but with a higher concentration...lets say you have a 1-10 mix in such a lance it will provide the maximum amount of water possible....the ones with adjustable dials just increase the water level as well....

effectively what has happened is that you have basically sprayed a thin layer of water on the car with a product that is effectively diluted by the flow rate of the pressure washer which could be the reason it didnt move anything....

I would suggest that maybe a pressure sprayer with a mix of 1-15 to start with and go down that route unless a new foam lance is on the cards,,,,

In relation to other posts there really is no such thing as a no touch completely clean the surface snow foam....which this is not....what this does is break down the majority leaving it cleaner so making it less likely to inflict wash marring when you wash it....the thing is and what you have to remember this is pH Neutral and still moves more dirt and grime than something that is pH 13 when used through the correct equipment and dilution ratio....

Honestly fellas it does work....also snow foams do need the back up of a thorough pressure rinse and not just a swift rinse to remove it....as has been the issue on other forums with other products as well...often people think that the foam will leave the car spotless....but in reality traffic film is not so simple to remove with a no touch method....

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Re: New Brand Products

Post by chunky79 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 4:31 pm

Hi Russ, cheers for your reply.
I have a snow foam lance from polished bliss, connected to my Nilfisk c120. I have tried Megs Hyper wash and Magifoam previously and they are the same. I have read that the Hyperwasher as a snow foam is just for looks as it goes mega thick.
On the second attempt with 50ml of 1rne and 50 Magifaom it did work alot better bit still left some grime, the bonnet is really bad but nothing apart from hand wash removes the dirt from there, think it's due to the heat.
This is the first wash since i put 2 layers of Blackfire sealant on so was hoping for less dirt to be left.
I will have a play with different strengths and see how it goes. I haven't used it as hand wash yet so look forward to seeing what it does there, hope it's as good as my favourite, Megs Gold Class.
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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Sun Dec 02, 2012 6:59 pm

50ml in the bottle should be fine as that is all i use but it may need increasing to around 80ml....thing is i would have thought the Blackfire Sealant would have held on to less dirt in the first place....again just to reiterate that most foams are for show and really do not lift even the merest amount let alone traffic film....if you were to put an inch in the bottle as with most foams you would probably get more umph....

Flow rates....water hardness etc all contribute to foam thickness....also how are you rinsing it off....are you pretty close with it or a good few feet away....

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Re: New Brand Products

Post by chunky79 » Sun Dec 02, 2012 7:06 pm

I get a close as I dare (about a foot) and it is hot water too.
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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Mon Dec 03, 2012 6:18 pm

This is from 50ml in a litre foam lance and you can see how little i have used....this was on a wet car due to the previous rain....

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Post by brn7y » Mon Dec 17, 2012 4:12 pm

What's the alloy cleaner stuff and how much?
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Re: New Brand Products

Post by Reflect Russ » Tue Dec 18, 2012 10:31 am

brn7y wrote:What's the alloy cleaner stuff and how much?
Its a pH Neutral Gel that clings and can be left for upto 30-45 minutes if need be.....its not made for iron removal of any sort but it leaves wheels seriously clean....see below....this is covered in grease, grime and brake dust....the brake dust though it is not aimed at removing as these need something along the lines of iron x or acid.....but for the level it had on its not a bad result....

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The following ones are the removal of black marks on an alloy with no effort....

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And this is a swipe with a finger after around 2 minutes dwell time....

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These are from a dwell and pressure wash...no agitation....

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As you can see...its not too bad....similar Neutral Wheel Gels that clean as good are knocking on the door of £15-£20 for 500ml....plus you could dilute it 1-1 if you wanted to....

Price is here mate http://www.cardetailingsheffield.co.uk/ ... 23239).htm

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Re: New Brand Products

Post by chunky79 » Mon Feb 18, 2013 7:14 pm

I managed to give the car a bloody good clean this weekend. Used R1NE for snow foam and I have got it working just great now. Clayed it then polished it. I used R5ve lock down for the first time and I LOVE it, it is really easy to use and the depth of colour is just amazing. The wife didn't use the car today so it was clean when I got home, had to have a minute just looking at it cause it looks so nice.
Cheers Russ for sending the stuff out. I have purchased another bottle of R1NE even though I still have 3/4 left of first bottle. Glass cleaner works well too but can't really say it is much better than other glass cleaners.
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