Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

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Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by tonybrown5 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:16 pm

Hi all,

I’m new to this forum and also to Audi and the RS models. I currently drive a Jeep Grand Cherokee and a TVR T350 as my fun car. However, I’m using the TVR less and less as I do a lot of MTBing which means the Jeep gets used more and more. I was going down the route of changing the TVR to a more sensible toy – an R8 V10 but then started to look at the RS6 performance, the garage I viewed the R8 at having a Nardo grey 2017 model sat outside. Barr a test drive which I have this Saturday my mind is now pretty much made up to swap both my current cars for a 1 car does pretty much everything model – hence the RS6. I know it won’t be an all out sports car but can still at least deliver 75% of the thrills of the R8.

The model I’m interested in is this – https://kallenhard.co.uk/cars-for-sale/ ... erformance

I love the colour and the extra BHP form the performance along with the fact it also has the benefit of 18 months still to run on the Audi warranty. However, I do have questions, not least because Audis RS configurator on their website seems to not be there.

In the first instance what are your thoughts on this particular car? Are there any must haves it is missing? Is adaptive cruise standard on these? How do I find what options were fitted over standard as well as the standard equipment spec (again – Audis website seems to not allow you to look at RS models?)

What level of depreciation would you expect over the next 3 years?

Any known issues on this model year?

Thoughts on price?

What sort of cost is the Audi extended warranty once the initial 3 years are up?

A random question as well – some ads show buttons numbered 1 to 6 on the drivers side centre consoled by the gear selector, the car I’m looking at doesn’t have these – what are they and how important are they?

Can a tow bar be fitted to these (for a bike rack)?

I’m fine with overall servicing, tax, insurance and fuel but don’t want an expensive car that’s going to spend half its life in a dealership – I guess these are more bombproof than the RS6s of old?

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Re: Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by MikeFish » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:47 pm

Good choice of car. As soon as you put your foot down when you test drive it you'll be sold.

Cruise is standard but adaptive cruise was an option.
You can check the options on the configurater as they don't make the 6 any more. The best place is to have a look on Google for a 2016 or 2017 brochure. This will show you what was standard, what was optional, how much it cost and what the different packs were.

Depreciation depends on how long until we see a replacement and how good it is. Until then depreciation should be OK.

I think the cost to extend my warranty for another year was about £600.

The buttons are part of a touch pad. When listening to the radii or similar it displays a 1-6. Other times it is blank and allows you to handwrite the letters / numbers for your postcode search etc. This was an option.

Have a search for tow bar. From factory only cars with air suspension could have a tow bar. There are some aftermarket options but I'm not sure if they can be used on air and DRC cars or just air.

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Post by tonybrown5 » Tue Feb 05, 2019 5:57 pm

Thanks for the reply. Checked and it does have air suspension and tow bar prep.
It's the radio useable with car play or running an android through for phone control and Google maps?

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Re: Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by zappy-chops » Tue Feb 05, 2019 11:33 pm

tonybrown5 wrote:
Tue Feb 05, 2019 3:16 pm

What sort of cost is the Audi extended warranty once the initial 3 years are up?
Before I bought my 67 plate RS6 PE I was looking at older cars and checked out the cost of extended warranties and whilst I can't remember the exact costs I felt it was reasonable (compared to Porsche which I had been driving). Audi also lets you choose the warranty level. You can warrant everything (that typically can be covered that is) or you can choose different levels - e.g. only covering major components, which will be much cheaper.

And keeping the Porsche comparison running you can just go online and choose your Audi warranty cover and pay for it. That's it done. Unless your Porsche has literally just run out of manufacturers warranty they will insist you have (and pay for) a 111 point check and rectify (and pay for) any faults they find. This process is a bit of a joke as it pretty much all about reducing the likelihood of you actually making a warranty claim as they have checked the car over before they sell you the warranty. Most dealers will throw in the cost of the 111 point check if you then buy the warranty, which is something I suppose.

As for checking the full list of options fitted to the car you are looking at, I wouldn't necessarily rely on the dealer getting it correct, especially as it's an independent. Dealers misrepresent car specs all the time. I would ask the dealer to contact Audi and get the definitive spec list so you can be sure what the car has before you buy. The car in question doesn't look to have a lot of options as compared to others out there but as long as it has what you want, and the price is right, that's all that counts. One thing I noticed that may put some people off is the lack of interior carbon. It seems more common on Performance models to have the carbon interior (and often exterior) packs. These can all be retrofitted if you wanted to.

I am sure you are (or have been) looking at alternatives. Here is one in a similar price bracket that I saw on Autotrader. Not Nardo, but a nice colour all the same. This one has the carbon interior so you can see the difference. And a lot fewer miles.

https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... romSA=true

Hope this helps.
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18 plate Lamborghini Huracan Performante (5.2l of V10 naturally aspirated craziness)
67 plate RS6 Performance (fully loaded)
66 plate Range Rover Autobiography (for wafting around)
16 plate Mini Cooper S convertible (lots of fun but rather skittish when thrashed)

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Post by tonybrown5 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:26 am

Thanks. That is a great help, I've decided against the one I posted. It has very few options and is missing rear view camera (must have for me), the pan roof and the carbon which on further investigation does look good.
I do like the full leather thin over the alcantara.
Sytner have a stunning purple one but it doesn't have the air suspension.

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Re: Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by zappy-chops » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:30 pm

No rear view camera on a car that long. Eek. I'd give that a swerve too. There are plenty of cars out there so I'm sure you will find what you seek. Less Performance models seem to have air though, but you will find one.

I too prefer the all leather seats but I imagine the part alcantara ones look great in the flesh. They don't look as nice in photos to my eye. Alcantara of course saves weight so the car will go faster. :bigblink:
Currently running:
18 plate Lamborghini Huracan Performante (5.2l of V10 naturally aspirated craziness)
67 plate RS6 Performance (fully loaded)
66 plate Range Rover Autobiography (for wafting around)
16 plate Mini Cooper S convertible (lots of fun but rather skittish when thrashed)

Favourite car ever owned:
1971 Citroen DS21 - The Goddess (pure art on wheels)

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Re: Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by zappy-chops » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:42 pm

Currently running:
18 plate Lamborghini Huracan Performante (5.2l of V10 naturally aspirated craziness)
67 plate RS6 Performance (fully loaded)
66 plate Range Rover Autobiography (for wafting around)
16 plate Mini Cooper S convertible (lots of fun but rather skittish when thrashed)

Favourite car ever owned:
1971 Citroen DS21 - The Goddess (pure art on wheels)

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Re: Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by zappy-chops » Wed Feb 06, 2019 12:48 pm

Nice to hear of someone driving a TVR. I had 2 Chimaeras (a 4.0 and a 4.5) and a Cerbera (AJP 4.5). Loved them all. Spent rather too much time back at the dealer tough.
Currently running:
18 plate Lamborghini Huracan Performante (5.2l of V10 naturally aspirated craziness)
67 plate RS6 Performance (fully loaded)
66 plate Range Rover Autobiography (for wafting around)
16 plate Mini Cooper S convertible (lots of fun but rather skittish when thrashed)

Favourite car ever owned:
1971 Citroen DS21 - The Goddess (pure art on wheels)

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Post by tonybrown5 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:41 pm

I like this one you posted- https://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified ... romSA=true

Not sure if it has the camera though.

Also like this - https://usedcars.audi.co.uk/usedcar/i/d ... htm#/i/s/l

And my ultimate - https://www.sytner.co.uk/car-search/962 ... r-tip-auto such a shame it is on the springs rather than air and has the carbon diffuser so no tie bar

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Post by tonybrown5 » Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:42 pm

As for the tvr, it's my 2nd having had a chimaera for 5 years prior. I love it but just don't drive it enough.

Out of interest how much discount would people generally see from Audi or specialists on these?
And what are the preferred colours?

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Re: Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by zappy-chops » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:09 pm

tonybrown5 wrote:
Wed Feb 06, 2019 3:42 pm

Out of interest how much discount would people generally see from Audi or specialists on these?
And what are the preferred colours?
Do you mean how much you should you expect to be able to haggle off the price? Everyone selling a car typically expects to have to drop a little as we all like to feel we have had a good deal, but I wouldn't go as far as to say there is a norm for this in the used RS6 market. I'd want a few grand off for sure. February is not a bad time to buy as it can still be a bit quiet (still early in the year) and also main dealers will be expecting a flood of part exchanges from the new plate change on 1st March so will soon be holding lots of used stock and so may be keen to clear out existing stock before then. This doesn't apply to the RS6 specifically as you can't buy a new one at present, but a main dealer will be expecting more used stock in general very soon.

Also, if you think you are ready to buy then go on a Friday to seal the deal as you may get lucky on the discount so the dealer can meet their weekly quota. Same goes for the end of the month if you are still looking by then. I'd also suggest not setting your heart on 1 car but on 2 and then negotiate on them both. You can use one against the other ("I'd really love to buy your car but the other dealer is going to let his go for £X less"). That sort of thing.
Currently running:
18 plate Lamborghini Huracan Performante (5.2l of V10 naturally aspirated craziness)
67 plate RS6 Performance (fully loaded)
66 plate Range Rover Autobiography (for wafting around)
16 plate Mini Cooper S convertible (lots of fun but rather skittish when thrashed)

Favourite car ever owned:
1971 Citroen DS21 - The Goddess (pure art on wheels)

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Re: Hi - 2017 rs6 advice for a newbie

Post by zappy-chops » Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:15 pm

Oh, and colour of course is a very personal thing. Just look at the likes of Autotrader and you can easily see that black, grey and blue dominate - so that pretty much answers your question on preferred colours. I really love the purple but it won't be everyone's cup of tea. You get the occasional red, white or yellow RS6 but they are much less common (for a reason in my book).
Currently running:
18 plate Lamborghini Huracan Performante (5.2l of V10 naturally aspirated craziness)
67 plate RS6 Performance (fully loaded)
66 plate Range Rover Autobiography (for wafting around)
16 plate Mini Cooper S convertible (lots of fun but rather skittish when thrashed)

Favourite car ever owned:
1971 Citroen DS21 - The Goddess (pure art on wheels)

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