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sports cats ?

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 6:38 pm
by JAZZA
anyone fitted them on there own without the rest of the exhaust are they worth it do you get a lot out of them ?

J

RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 7:03 pm
by RSVI
IMO changing any part of the exhaust should then follow with a remap.

If just the CAT's were changed I'm not sure you're going to benefit much.

I did a previous car from sports exhaust, then 3 months later to a Full Exhaust system with De-cat along with a Re-Map and this did make a difference.

Get a cat back exhaust, remove the CAT's and replace with a straight. Put the CAT back on for the MOT, 4 bolts on each i think.


Personally, going on your post "Remap or exhaust" I would wait till you could do both at the same time.

I'm going to get mine done but want to wait a while, as the car is new to me i would like to get used to the noises, gear changes, drivability etc.
That way if i hear or feel something after the exhaust and Re-Map i know whether it's normal or not. (If you know what i mean)

RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:17 pm
by ZeroK66
Agreed with above... running race cats will allow the car to breath easier. Once the car is breathing easier you can maintain a level of boost, but get more air through the engine & with less back pressure you can run better ignition timing. So if the car is mapped after the exhaust is done you can really maximise the better flow rates & lesser backpressure maximise timing ensuring a more efficient burn, better economy and most importantly better power :D

RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:49 pm
by bbigman2000
ZeroK, was your mouth out mate, we dont do economy in this section LOL

Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:00 am
by RSVI
bbigman2000 wrote:ZeroK, was your mouth out mate, we dont do economy in this section LOL
LMAO :D

RE: Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Wed Jan 10, 2007 9:59 am
by MarkB
If I was to do an exhaust I would always try and do the complete system. Cats and boxes.

And I would do it before a remap

Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 2:50 pm
by W8PMC
RSVI wrote:IMO changing any part of the exhaust should then follow with a remap.

If just the CAT's were changed I'm not sure you're going to benefit much.

I did a previous car from sports exhaust, then 3 months later to a Full Exhaust system with De-cat along with a Re-Map and this did make a difference.

Get a cat back exhaust, remove the CAT's and replace with a straight. Put the CAT back on for the MOT, 4 bolts on each i think.


Personally, going on your post "Remap or exhaust" I would wait till you could do both at the same time.

I'm going to get mine done but want to wait a while, as the car is new to me i would like to get used to the noises, gear changes, drivability etc.
That way if i hear or feel something after the exhaust and Re-Map i know whether it's normal or not. (If you know what i mean)
Just noticed your sig (RS6 screw M5). That's funny & whenever you're ready :D :D

As you'd no doubt know, my car previous to my current E60 M5 was a 550BHP/560lbsft RS6 Saloon & i'm afraid to say both are exactly the same as regards performance (tried & tested at VAMX) so unless you have a 600BHP RS6 (which you don't) then your sig is just pure funny.

As for Sports Cats & the topic in hand, if you're looking at going the aftermarket Zorst route then a full system really is the only option. A Cat-Back only enhances the noise (slightly) & is a little more pleasing on the eye, but gains are very minimal. A Full system would open up about 15-20BHP & the same levels of Torque & the sound is even sweeter.

A decent re-map & full exhaust should get you to aroaund the 520BHP & 530lbsft mark.

Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 3:36 pm
by RSVI
W8PMC wrote:

Just noticed your sig (RS6 screw M5). That's funny & whenever you're ready :D :D

As you'd no doubt know, my car previous to my current E60 M5 was a 550BHP/560lbsft RS6 Saloon & i'm afraid to say both are exactly the same as regards performance (tried & tested at VAMX) so unless you have a 600BHP RS6 (which you don't) then your sig is just pure funny.
lol, i was wondering how long it would take for someone to make comment :D

I'll have to think of something else now ;)

Ps. what's VAMX :D

Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 4:53 pm
by W8PMC
RSVI wrote:
W8PMC wrote:

Just noticed your sig (RS6 screw M5). That's funny & whenever you're ready :D :D

As you'd no doubt know, my car previous to my current E60 M5 was a 550BHP/560lbsft RS6 Saloon & i'm afraid to say both are exactly the same as regards performance (tried & tested at VAMX) so unless you have a 600BHP RS6 (which you don't) then your sig is just pure funny.
lol, i was wondering how long it would take for someone to make comment :D

I'll have to think of something else now ;)

Ps. what's VAMX :D
It was a typo, i meant VMAX. That being an event organised usually over on Pistonheads for folk to hurl their machines down the 2 mile runway at Bruntingthorpe & see what VMAX they can achieve through the timing beams.

Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 5:54 pm
by RSVI
W8PMC wrote: It was a typo, i meant VMAX. That being an event organised usually over on Pistonheads for folk to hurl their machines down the 2 mile runway at Bruntingthorpe & see what VMAX they can achieve through the timing beams.
Sorry, I knew, was just being silly.

Waiting for Craig to let me know the dates for the next one this year. Looking forward to kicking some M5's down the straight. :lol:


Anyone know how I can get 700 bhp to put in my engine bay for a couple of grand, only need it for the day? :D

RE: Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:33 pm
by bbigman2000
NOS !

Scary thing is your engine will only last the day if that bud !

Re: RE: sports cats ?

Posted: Thu Jan 11, 2007 6:50 pm
by W8PMC
RSVI wrote:
W8PMC wrote: It was a typo, i meant VMAX. That being an event organised usually over on Pistonheads for folk to hurl their machines down the 2 mile runway at Bruntingthorpe & see what VMAX they can achieve through the timing beams.
Sorry, I knew, was just being silly.

Waiting for Craig to let me know the dates for the next one this year. Looking forward to kicking some M5's down the straight. :lol:


Anyone know how I can get 700 bhp to put in my engine bay for a couple of grand, only need it for the day? :D
I'll look forward to that 8) You'll 1st need to have your mapping altered to remove the speed limiter or you'll be a very long way back stuck at 158MPH. A standard RS6 (limiter removed) can manage about 168-171MPH through the beams (same as an M3 CSL) & a mapped with sports zorst RS6 can reach about 175MPH. You need alot more power or drastic changes to the RS6's aerodynamics to reach the 180+ mark.

For the record the most i managed in my RS6 was 181MPH & that's exactly the same i managed in my DMS M5. The air flow is the biggest killer at those speeds, i'd need another 2-3miles to crack that magic 205MPH that's the genuine VMAX of a DMS M5.