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Un-insured pecker ran into our RS6
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 8:38 pm
by B9Boy
Only had the car a month and some un-insured c0ck sucker has run into the back of our RS6 whilst it WAS PARKED STATIONARY at a petrol station.
I was unavailable at work so the missus took his details in good faith and guess what........you got it-he supplied a dodgy address and phone number!
Then later that day someone rings up from a supposed car hire place saying that it was his Porsche that was involved and could we sort a cash deal out?!?!? When our insurance company ring him to get details he turns around and says that his 'clients' (read mates probably) sort their own insurance out (strange he wanted to sort it our privately then).
Anyway it seems the police couldnt give a flying, they would rather try and catch people ding 90mph on a deserted motorway!!!!!!!!!!!
LESSON:
If you have ANY doubt at all about the person who has just run into you ring the police rather than exchanging details and get some I.D. At least then lying to a police officer is a criminal offence.
RE: Un-insured pecker ran into our RS6
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:03 pm
by SteveH
Gutted for you, did it do much damage?
Can't you get a copy of the garage CCTV to id the scum?
RE: Un-insured pecker ran into our RS6
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:13 pm
by B9Boy
Its broken the bumper/dented the spare wheel well/bent one of the rear silencers. At least the car remains driveable but what f'ing VERMIN we have knocking around our streets. He must have purchased his driving licence from whatever country it was that he came from, I cant think of another explanation as to how you bash a stationary car that you have been sat behind for the last 2 minutes.
I have spoken to the garage and their CCTV is pin sharp and getting a copy shouldnt be too much of a problem but the police just cant be arsed so Im wasting my time.
RE: Un-insured pecker ran into our RS6
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:17 pm
by ashleyadam
yeah its a nightmare but from past experiences I have always called police, no matter how small or trivial.
RE: Un-insured pecker ran into our RS6
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:20 pm
by bobjebb
Know how you feel, it's quite shambolic.
I have been hit twice in my driving lifetime once at lights and once from the side when I was parked. NEITHER had insurance. A 100% strike rate. So just how many people are driving without cover???
Just say you think the guy had a gun but you can't be sure. Although that's probably of no interest to them these days either.
RE: Un-insured pecker ran into our RS6
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:22 pm
by GaryC
Bad luck mate...you're right there are way too many tossers on the roads.
It's sort of redundant now since almost every phone has a decent camera, but I've always kept a disposable camera in the glove box to make sure I had photograhic evidence - of car and driver - in the event of any accident.
Gary.
RE: Un-insured pecker ran into our RS6
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:31 pm
by B9Boy
The cameras a good idea actually, I might well start to do that. Maybe I should keep my shotgun in the boot aswell - that might liberate a bit of truth hey??
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:32 pm
by Daveperc
That's a real pain mate - sorry to hear the tale.
If you get the number and the police won't play ball then I'd take it to the local paper with the piccies and tell the whole tale, police amd all. It's amazing how quick they find the will to do something with a little publicity.
Good luck
Dave
(still waiting.......)
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 9:38 pm
by Ronin
There are a few things you can do here;
Firstly, if the person has given false details, they have committed an offence - attempt to perevert the course of justice.
Anyone involved in a Road Traffic Accident HAS to exchange the correct name, address, name of owner of vehicle and name of insurer if they know it.
You mention that the insurers (yours) have been in contact with the owner of the vehicle responsible - then the police have a lead, the owner of the vehicle HAS to provide details of who was driving the vehicle at the time of the collision - if he doesn't, he committs an offence (S 172 RTA I think)
There is CCTV footage - again more leads and possible identification of the offending driver and footage of the collision.
Was it a traffic officer you spoke to or a dare I say "normal response officer"
The Police are not interested; - well I know that my force would be where I work, if you get fobbed off - complain to a sergeant or higher as there are, - if what you have posted is correct, plenty of lines of enquiry to look at before it is dismissed as NFA.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:12 pm
by B9Boy
Hi Ronin,
All posts are as it happened. Insurers are doing a check on the Porsche reg no to see who is registered keeper and ringing the guy from the 'car hire firm' again tomorrow to see who he says was driving the car. will be interesting to see if we get a truthful address this time.
p.s I spoke to someone on a central number. A admin type desk jockey no doubt.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:24 pm
by Rich_C
Sorry to hear about your experience ... not very nice thing to happen especially with the car. My previous cars have both been hit quite badly (new bumpers/panels required) in car parks and both times the offenders never left there details.
As an aside my wifes cousin had her car hit in a restaurant car park. After the meal she came out to see the front wing caved in. She went back into the restaurant and asked if they had CCTV ... rewound the tape and found that the culprit had reversed into it in his 4x4 whilst parking in the space next to her car. He then got out to have a look at the damage, got back in and parked his chelsea tractor at the far end of the car park. Got out and went for his meal. The restaurant owner called the police who turned up and asked to speak to the culprit who all of a sudden became very apologetic.
Anyway, the point I was wanting to make is that I worked in southern Ireland for a good stint early last year and over there drivers are required to display an insurance certificate above the tax disk. I don't see why we couldn't have such things over here. I'd be more than happy to see insurance certificate radars out and about as well as tax disc scanners. In my mind un-insured drivers are a significant hazard to other drivers on the road - more so than people who speed (again just my personal opinion).
Rich.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:27 pm
by ZeroK66
I always get reg number, pic of the car, check road tax plate and get drivers license number.
Sorry to hear this though... I hear you on the deserted motorway comment!!
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 10:27 pm
by SteveH
@ Ronin, a policeman with an RS6... now theres a brilliant conflict of interest... unless its an unmarked car (which I pray to Road Angel that it is'nt) Fair Play!
Good idea about the disposable camera or camera phone above, top-tip. I had a guy T-Bone a previous car of mine about 3 years ago when I was stationary, directly into my drivers door... he took me to court the cheeky blighter! Needless to say that he lost and had to pay all fees and damages/repairs.
Posted: Mon Dec 18, 2006 11:47 pm
by david7m
Terrible news
I dont think the police are required to attend an accident unless someone is hurt. A good line this time of year would be to ring the police and say you suspect he/she is drunk .......
Dave
Posted: Tue Dec 19, 2006 8:26 pm
by Ronin
B9boy
not doubting your account at all.
The insurers have a combined database, which the police have access to, basically, if you have a reg plate, they can tell who is insured to drive that vehicle, what the policy number is and the dates it is valid from. As far as I am aware the insurance companies are very pro active about updating their systems and that system is available 24hrs / 365 days per year. Difficulty is when someone "borrows a car with the owners consent(who have their own insurance for "any vehicle"), has a bump and then fails to pass on to the info to the owner
- stangely this seems to happen quite alot with vehicles used in the travelling fraternity.
Can only second what has been said about cameras in the car for "incidents" a picture tells a thousand words - camera phones are ok, but the quality is questionable, spend £30 on a cheap 35mm compact and leave it in the car, when you need it, you'll think it invaluable.
Oh, any RTA is reportable to the police - injury or damage only, if you suspect the other party to be under the influence of alcohol or intoxicants, we will get there all the quicker
Oh, one other thing, some of "us" do have lives on the outside and i'm one of them
