Central locking issues

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Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Fri Jul 09, 2021 11:19 am

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Now getting to the nitty gritty
Just these error codes to get sorted.
I am thinking ccm or door locks / switches but I don’t really know.
Can you check ccm and door locks / switches with VCDS?

Everything seems to work ok. But after a few faults are logged the automatic locking above 15 mph stops working. Then you have to clear the faults and the auto lock works again.
Am I being too fussy. Would be great to have a clean auto scan.

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jul 09, 2021 1:38 pm

The locks are a nightmare. They never work properly. Mine are the same.

If you want the faults to go you will need to replace the lock mechanisms.

I doubt it's the CCM, but it's not impossible.

You can test the individual microswitches with the Vagcom in the measuring blocks. If one doesn't react, though, you still won't know if it's the microswitch (likely) or the CCM input (less likely).
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Re: Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:30 pm

Many thanks Ben. Appreciate your help.
Will leave it for a while as spent far too much lately on my pride and joy.
However will try to connect VCDS and check the switches.
I am ok to scan but not too familiar with all the other things you can do with VCDS
But got to learn sometime?

Ps my central locking options code is 06139
And my instrument code is 01484
Hope these are set right.
Anyone have their codes to cross check.
It seems weird that I have errors for all four doors
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Re: Central locking issues

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:36 pm

Best way to learn is by playing with it. If you stick to measuring blocks then you won't do any damage. Have a poke around the different modules. You'll see there's an amazing amount of info available.
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Re: Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Fri Jul 09, 2021 2:46 pm

Again many thanks Ben.
I am soooooo close to getting the car as I want it.
I can almost taste it.
Don’t want to jinx it.
But She really is driving lovely at the moment.
Had some really pleasant long drives recently. And it has just been pure joy.
As recommended I will have a play around with the measuring blocks when I can.
With all 4 doors being affected. That’s why I was wondering if the coding shown above contributes to the problem.

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Fri Jul 09, 2021 8:50 pm

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Current central locking code set to 6139.
Selective central locking option = +4
Will try 6139 +4 = 6143

So I will set to 6143 and see if it makes any difference.

Will also try deducting 256 and see what that does.

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:22 pm

No fear, eh? Respect. Try not to brick it. Just remember what your original coding was.
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Re: Central locking issues

Post by Shoppinit » Fri Jul 09, 2021 10:24 pm

Selective central locking is when only the driver’s door unlocks on one press, IIRC.
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Re: Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 8:17 am

Original code is noted above. So I guess I can play around.
Thank you for explaining the selective locking option.
So I won’t be doing that one.
Just leaves :
Alarm type cycle for sound Rest of world : deduct 256.
It’s looking more and more like the actual locking mechanisms are faulty. All 4 of them ?
Could of had this fault since 2012 when I bought the car.
But didn’t know about it until I purchased VCDS around two years ago.
Also the drivers door puddle light has stopped working.
So even more possible that it’s the lock mechanisms.

Watched a video on how to change the micro switches.
Looks like a total nightmare. To me anyway.
Even removing the door card looks a pain.
Never seen so many plugs to undo.
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Re: Central locking issues

Post by srichards » Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:39 am

So what's the actual symptoms? Is the central locking not working?

I've never had auto lock on. I just hit the door lock button. Works fine. Only issue I had was when the fob died. New fob, fine since then.

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 10:48 am

srichards wrote:
Sat Jul 10, 2021 9:39 am
So what's the actual symptoms? Is the central locking not working?

I've never had auto lock on. I just hit the door lock button. Works fine. Only issue I had was when the fob died. New fob, fine since then.
Yes everything is working fine.
When I do a auto scan the above faults are always logged.
Just trying to get a clean auto scan.
I suppose it’s my ocd working overtime.

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by srichards » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:26 am

If you don't scan it after you've cleared them then it's still empty :biggrin3:

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Sat Jul 10, 2021 11:57 am

😂. I like you thinking suz.
As I said my ocd working overtime.
After a number of faults are logged the auto locking above 15 mph stop working.
So I have to auto scan. Then clear the faults and the auto locking works again.
Typically I have to clear the faults every two ish weeks.
Could just live with it.
Could just switch the auto lock feature off
But hey ho would be nice to sort the problem.
That’s just the way I am ?
My other half says I am totally obsessive with the car.
I just have to agree with her.

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by srichards » Sat Jul 10, 2021 12:52 pm

I'd turn off auto lock. Then lock car manually each time you drive off. Leave it two weeks and check for faults and see if they're the same. If manual door locking works fine then it's a very narrow lot of circumstance that's causing the gremlins. If the faults are identical then it suggests it's the door locking mechanism itself that's the issue. If all the doors are actually locking but it's throwing up faults then it has to be something odd going on.

Also are the codes being thrown up when it's auto locked or auto unlocked? If there's the option to change that so it's auto lock but manual unlock that's another variation to try and see if the codes chucked up are the same.

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Re: Central locking issues

Post by steve2003rs6 » Sun Jul 11, 2021 12:13 pm

Thank you suz. Might give that a go and see what happens.
I do like the auto lock feature though ?

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